Every scientist, except the way out of the mainstream, thoughly discredited creations scientists (an oxymoron if there ever was one) know these fossils exist and recognize the significance of them.
I guess you don't know Dr. Bert Thompson, Dr. Wayne Jackson, Dr. Dave Miller, Dr. Brad Harrub, Kyle Butt, Eric Lyons, Trevor Major, Robert C. Redden, Zach Smith, Caleb Colley, Branyon May, or Gary Workman? Those are just some I have had the chance to work with. Your dating has been proven wrong but theres no need to go there again.
Moose--the list goes on and on. Everyone that doesn't agree with Doc is called "unqualified." Obviously, anyone that agrees with the lie of evolution is given a free pass.
CalDoc didn't give me an example, but I've seen him mention australopithicus before as some sort of proof. Since I don't usually get online during my work days(I go back to work tonight), I won't get an opportunity to rebutt a response. So I'll give a partial rebuttal here.
Regarding australopithicus: It's hard to keep them straight. First there was the discovery in Africa by Raymond Dart in 1925. of an infant skull. Entitled Australopithicus, this creature was recognized to be fully ape-like, but with a few characteristics hinting of human, thus an ape on the line to humans.
Over the years similar bones and bone fragments have been found (never has a complete skeleton been found) each individual slightly different but lumped into the genus Australopithicus, leading to the species names africanus, afarensis (including the famous "Lucy"), ramidus, and most recently ananemsis. A look at the actual data which led to the recent designation reveals the lengths to which men will go to justify their belief in our evolution from the animals.
Ananemsis has been dated as around 4 million years old by evolutionists. Leaving aside the validity of this date, we note that this age places ananemsis as older than the well-known "Lucy," a creature essentially identical to modern chimps, being totally chimp from the neck up. On her 3' 6" frame, only the controversial knee and hip bones give any clue of more erect posture than modem chimps. This species, as is now recognized, had long curved fingers and toes and an opposing big toe. With such a grasping foot, it was obviously tree-dwelling, only occasionally walking on the ground, possibly with a semi-erect posture).
The new ananemsis discovery consists of 2 groupings of bone fragments, together totaling 21. The more recent discovery of 12 tooth and jaw fragments near Lake Turkana in Africa have been lumped with 9 other fragments of teeth and limb bones found in 1965 and later some 100 miles away, near Kanapoi.
The Kanapoi fragments include one end of an arm bone, and the two end pieces of a shin bone, with the rest being tooth and jaw fragments. The arm bone was deemed remarkably "human-like" when discovered 30 years ago, strikingly close" to human in appearance, indistinguishable from modern homo sapiens."
But herein lies the problem. How could fully human limb bones be found in 4 million year-old strata? All evolutionists "know" that anatomically-modern humans didn't evolve-until the last one million years or so. How could they be before "Lucy," their ancestor? Thus the human-like arm bone was shelved. Only the recent discovery of the very human-like shin bone brought the arm to light once again, and forced evolutionists to deal with them both.
In contrast, the recently found Kanapoi jaw and tooth fragments are grossly apelike. Discoverer Dr. Meave Leakey (wife of Richard Leakey) exults that while the chin and teeth are more ape-like than "Lucy", yet they hint at progressing toward humans, thus earlier on the human family tree. (Doesn't anyone remember anymore that Lucy is scarcely different, from a chimp?). So, if this creature is more ape-like than Lucy, there is no justification for putting it in the human lineage at all).
The real clincher for evolution lies in the lumping of the recently found and quite ape-like 12 tooth and dental fragments from Lake Turkana in with the human-like Kanapoi limb bones, even though separated by 100 miles. Even at Kanapoi, the tooth and jaw fragments are found in a layer 55' lower stratisgraphically than the crucial limb bones. Already evolutionists are beginning to call the single-species interpretation into question. I predict that this claim will be discarded, even by evolutionists.
Meanwhile, Leakey's claims have received extensive coverage in the press. That may be what this is all about.
I have more interesting evidence about the misrepresentation of Lucy as a missing link, but I'll await Doc's reply.
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How about Homo Habilis, Home Erectus and Archaic forms of Homo Sapiens. These three species, which appeared respective from 2 million to 500,000 years ago show a gradual change from species with less modern human-like characteristics to more modern human-like characteristics. The most significant changes are in their skulls where cranial capacity is steadily increasing and the areas of the brain such as the cerebral cortex where more modern human like behavior is centered become more prominent. Upright stance and hence modern appearing limbes developed rather early in the evolution of humans which is why many of the older hominids have very human-like legs and arms but retain more apelike skulls. Over the past 2-3 million years the evolution of humans, and it is well documented in the fossil record, is characterized by changes in the skull, brain and head. One does not need a complete skeleton to understand this. Extremely reliable extrapolations can be made from partial skeletons that can tell us not only what the specimen looked like in life but in many respects how they lived. In addition, as we progress from one species to the next over time we see a gradual increase in the sophistication of the tools that they make. This validates the observation that brain and skull are changing in ways that make these hominids ever more human.
I guess you don't know Dr. Bert Thompson, Dr. Wayne Jackson, Dr. Dave Miller, Dr. Brad Harrub, Kyle Butt, Eric Lyons, Trevor Major, Robert C. Redden, Zach Smith, Caleb Colley, Branyon May, or Gary Workman?
Have any of these people ever had their findings published in authoritative peer reviewed journals such as "Science", "Nature" or "Scientific American"?
Don't forget to include that some of these "partial skeletons" were comprised of things like a single tooth or other small part and then the rest was shaped to what they wanted to find. Lucy's entire pelvis was actually taken apart and re-fused together to make it "fit" the evolutionary model. Her feet were never found, so they manufactured feet for her that "fit" the model they wanted. Don't forget that--I didn't.
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RE: Neandertals and Modern Humans
