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Old 05-17-2005, 06:19 PM   #1
 
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How do you know that Jesus is the Messiah? Obviously the bible tells you so but how do you know that many of the stories told in the New Testament weren't just made up? Couldn't a group of guys come up with a false past for some guy to fit OT profecies about the Messiah?

Just interested in getting some answers from others to questions I get.
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Old 05-17-2005, 06:47 PM   #2
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If it is Wrong, what do you have to loose?
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What if the Muslims have it right? I would have a LOT to loose then.
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Old 05-17-2005, 07:09 PM   #4
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And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

10:5
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

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Old 05-17-2005, 07:34 PM   #5
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It's your life Bro.Pike you choose!No one is telling you what to do.
You are asking Christians, what do you think they are to tell you?
You are in doubt about the Christians and the Muslims, that's like
playing poker with two decks or, fall back and Punt if in doubt.
But don't forget you are considered by many of us as a Brother
in Christ which ever way you choose.
The Truth and nothing but the Truth!
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Old 05-17-2005, 07:59 PM   #6
 
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Maybe I didn't make it clear but all I am looking for is some help. These are not my questions but questions I got from friends when discussing my faith. I didn't have very good answers to some of their questions so I'm just looking for a little help with my responses.
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Old 05-17-2005, 08:07 PM   #7
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Bro.Pike, I see that you are seeking the right way. I respect you for
that. Many of us here will try to answer your questions, but we can't
convince you. You and you alone will have to make that decision.
You seem to be a nice person and not get offended easy with answer's.
God Bless,Bro.Pike!
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:52 PM   #8
 
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How do you know that Jesus is the Messiah? Obviously the bible tells you so but how do you know that many of the stories told in the New Testament weren't just made up? Couldn't a group of guys come up with a false past for some guy to fit OT profecies about the Messiah?
The biggest problem is Jesus didn't write a single word in the bible nor did god. Alot of Christians (Like Rebel)
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If it is Wrong, what do you have to loose?
Well damn it, alot If you ask me. I don't believe in putting God, Jesus or any God for that matter ahead of my family. I will Live without shame. I don't believe in sin, I don't believe mankind is inherantly evil needing to pray for forgiveness for simply being human. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. and I surely don't believe I need to forgive. Vengence is a virtue.

People quote the bible like it is written by God himself yet it clearly causes one to question the decision making ability of The God it proclaims. hope I can speak openly here. Maybe this is just my take on it but I'm sure it is shared by a great percentage of mankind.

The Great Myths of the world contradict eachother in some ways and mimic each other in others.
A person has to choose for him/her self.

Knowledge is a powerful thing and yet the more you learn the less you find you know. By this I mean If I was to limit myself to learning one belief I will understand that belief and condemn all others but knowing about many beliefs has brought me to the conclusion we each have a path to follow if we keep our eyes open enough to see it right infront of us.
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Jesus said that he is the "way, the truth, and the Light, and that no man goes to the father except through him". He also claims to be God. So you either believe he is God, or that he is a liar!!! Muslims claim he is a prophet- but not God- so if that is true, he is a lieing prophet!!!! The choice is simple- he is either a liar, he was crazy or a lunitic, or He is LORd (the Messiah promised in the Old Testament)
WHAT"S YOUR CHOICE?????????
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Old 05-18-2005, 03:10 AM   #10
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Well damn it, alot If you ask me. I don't believe in putting God, Jesus or any God for that matter ahead of my family. I will Live without shame. I don't believe in sin, I don't believe mankind is inherantly evil needing to pray for forgiveness for simply being human. I don't believe in turning the other cheek. and I surely don't believe I need to forgive. Vengence is a virtue.
Thanks for being honest. I'm reminded of an old king who had the same thoughts as you; Nebuchadnezzar. By your answer it looks like you have counted the cost and you are right.You will have to put God ahead of your family, Walk in humility, believe in sin, pray for forgiveness, turn the other cheek ,forgive others and allow God to be judge. My wife had the same thoughts as she completed the New Testament.

Here's the other side of the coin my friend.I say that serious Bearmaster not just Christian words.I love honest people. When I read the New ,I believed there was a God, but living the Sermon on the Mount..No Way. Can't do it.Impossible. And I was tired of looking like a fool trying. Then after spending 30 days and nights in the woods ,the Lord woke me up .I SAW HIM CRYSTAL CLEAR. And I still could not live the Sermon on the Mount. Two months later,HE ,not another Christian but HE baptized me with the HOLY GHOST.NOW I can live the SERMON on the MOUNT, and still fall at times ,but am doing better than I was 27 years ago.
NO ONE CAN LIVE A CHRISTIAN LIFE APART FROM THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
This is why one must be Born Again.
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