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Old 05-06-2005, 04:11 PM   #1
 
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Default Kansa board evolution hearings

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just wondering what other peoples opionings are on this, in my opionin the religous veiws

shoudn't be pushed onto kids, and if you say that evolution is wrong the only other

theory out there is intelligent design, or that god created everything the way it is
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"Intelligent Design" is nothing more than an unconstitutional back door attempt to inject religion into the classroom and throw real science out. These Kansans should be looking to find ways to make their children more scientifically literate, not less.

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Old 05-06-2005, 08:58 PM   #3
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These Kansans should be looking to find ways to make their children more scientifically literate, not less.
Gota agree with that- and ppl should put there personal agendas aside
while teaching- i am sure it is a hard thing to do for some.
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Cal-Doc " "Intelligent Design" is nothing more than an unconstitutional back door attempt to inject religion into the classroom and throw real science out ".

If folks look up at the night sky and know just how far reaching Voyager's beamings has reached and they wonder "how come if Darwin was right haven't we heard from our cousins" and they can't come up with an answer from modern science wouldn't you expect them to seek a different answer?

You don't have to be a creationist to ask this question.

If it isn't random then what is it?

Maybe when it is all said and done..all that is needed is a little tweaking to Darwins ideas and all is solved, that isn't the case today. Why do you rule out Intelligent Design?

Why would anyone unless they didn't like the implacations? Is that ever enough to impose a theory as fact?

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Cal-Doc " "Intelligent Design" is nothing more than an unconstitutional back door attempt to inject religion into the classroom and throw real science out ".

If folks look up at the night sky and know just how far reaching Voyager's beamings has reached and they wonder "how come if Darwin was right haven't we heard from our cousins" and they can't come up with an answer from modern science wouldn't you expect them to seek a different answer?

You don't have to be a creationist to ask this question.

If it isn't random then what is it?

Maybe when it is all said and done..all that is needed is a little tweaking to Darwins ideas and all is solved, that isn't the case today. Why do you rule out Intelligent Design?

Why would anyone unless they didn't like the implacations? Is that ever enough to impose a theory as fact?

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anyone is free to ask that question,

but voyagers signal has made a tiny distance into space, the nearest stars are light years away and the signals giving off are not traveling at the speed, we have just started to find planets around other stars through various methods, and for someone to return a signal they would have to have be as intelligent as us or more, darwin says nothing about species having to be the smartest, the best suited for their enviroment survive and reproduce by his theory, and as for your last question that same exact question could be asked to supporters of intelligent design.



alot of things in this world or universe still confuse me and make me wonder how it could have happened, sort of like what came first the cicken or the egg, but i chose to look for answers through science, others look to their religion and theirs nothing wrong with that but i don't want their religious beliefs being tought to my kids

i guess science has always been what i'm interested in, like why time slows down as speed increases,

During a Shuttle mission, the orbital speed is only a tiny fraction of the speed of light (namely, 1/42857th). So, the "time dilation," as the effect is called, is also tiny, but it is there, nevertheless, as Shuttle experiments have proven. For example, a highly precise atomic clock flying in an experiment called NAVEX on STS-61A/Challenger in 1985 measured a slowdown of 0.000,000,000,295 seconds for each second of flight, almost exactly what Einstein"™s formulas predicted.
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Intelligent design should not be taught is a science class for the same reason that String "theory" (a hypothesis at the fore front of physics) shouldn't be. Neither are proveable hypotheses. Intelligent design off no new questions (or answers), or any way of predicting results of future questions; thus it can never be scientific theory.

Keep science in the science class. If you really want creationist ideal taught, petition for a comparative religion class for students to look at religion critically, for students learn about all religions.
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Jfe 4346 " but voyagers signal has made a tiny distance into space, the nearest stars are light years away and the signals giving off are not traveling at the speed "

Just what speed are those radio waves traveling at?

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"Intelligent Design" is nothing more than an unconstitutional back door attempt to inject religion into the classroom and throw real science out. These Kansans should be looking to find ways to make their children more scientifically literate, not less.

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ABSOLUTELY.

should my children ever be taught anything resembling intelligent design, we will have our own "class" at home to debunk it.

shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.

i doubt it will happen though...my kids science teacher seems to be a reasonable man.
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For example, a highly precise atomic clock flying in an experiment called NAVEX on STS-61A/Challenger in 1985 measured a slowdown of 0.000,000,000,295 seconds for each second of flight, almost exactly what Einstein"™s formulas predicted.
And this from a man ,who as a boy in school was told he was dumb& would go nowhere in life=Al einstien your daydreaming payed off.
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Evolution should be taught in science class. Intelligent design should be taught in Sunday School.

While the theory of evolution is not proven fact, it is a scientific hypothesis that is greatly supported by what we have learned about biology, chemistry, geology, etc.

On the other hand, intelligent design attempts to explain something that cannot be proven--period. Essentially its supporters claim that the biology of living things is so complex that there is no way that chance alone could've led to evolution.
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