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Old 05-03-2005, 09:26 AM   #1
 
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Default and this, is exactly why Terri Schiavo .........

should not have been allowed to starve/dehydrate to death. Its not exactly the same type of injury, however the man was (see bold) in a very similar state for at least part of that period in his life. He was, for all intents and purposes, a vegetable, a shell of a human being. Should he have been starved/dehydrate to death during any of those 10 years ?




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ORCHARD PARK, New York (AP) -- Ten years after a firefighter was left brain-damaged and mostly mute during a 1995 roof collapse, he did something that shocked his family and doctors: He perked up.

"I want to talk to my wife," Donald Herbert said out of the blue Saturday. Staff members of the nursing home where he has lived for more than seven years raced to get Linda Herbert on the telephone.

It was the first of many conversations the 44-year-old patient had with his wife, four sons and other family and friends during a 14-hour stretch, Herbert's uncle, Simon Manka said.

"How long have I been away?" Herbert asked.

"We told him almost 10 years," the uncle said. "He thought it was only three months."

Herbert was fighting a house fire December 29, 1995, when the roof collapsed, burying him under debris. After going without air for several minutes, Herbert was comatose for 2 1/2 months and has undergone therapy ever since.

News accounts in the days and years after his injury describe Herbert as blind and with little, if any, memory. Video shows him receiving physical therapy but apparently unable to communicate and with little awareness of his surroundings.

Manka declined to discuss his nephew's current condition, or whether the apparent progress was continuing. The family was seeking privacy while doctors evaluated Herbert, he said.

"He's resting comfortably," the uncle said.

As word of Herbert's progress spread, a steady stream of visitors arrived at the Father Baker Manor nursing home in this Buffalo suburb.

"He stayed up till early morning talking with his boys and catching up on what they've been doing over the last several years," firefighter Anthony Liberatore told WIVB-TV.

Herbert's sons were 14, 13, 11 and 3 when he was injured.

Staff members at the nursing facility recognized the change in Herbert, Manka said, when they heard him speaking and "making specific requests."

"The word of the day was `amazing,"' he said.

Dr. Rose Lynn Sherr of New York University Medical Center said when patients recover from brain injuries, they usually do so within two or three years.

"It's almost unheard of after 10 years," she said, "but sometimes things do happen and people suddenly improve and we don't understand why."

Manka said visitors let Herbert set the pace of the conversations and did not bring up the fire in which he was injured.

"The extent and duration of his recovery is not known at this time," Manka said. "However we can tell you he did recognize several family members and friends and did call them by name."
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That ends tha discussion for me.
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Default RE: and this, is exactly why Terri Schiavo .........

Was the man ever diagnosed as BRAIN DEAD? No, end of discussion.
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LOL,

I read that story earlier this morning and thought to myself:

"Self, I wonder when VCpickledatashortinvaderfrizzler is going to plaster that story up"
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Your psychic powers never cease to amaze me, O wise Tard![:-][X(]
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save the feral cats ......... let the humans die huh Tard ?
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No, I think letting that Baby die in Texas was terrible, and very much the same as letting Terri die. Why didn't they let this man die ?

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News accounts in the days and years after his injury describe Herbert as blind and with little, if any, memory. Video shows him receiving physical therapy but apparently unable to communicate and with little awareness of his surroundings.
Very close to the same videos that were taken of Schivao.
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Very close to the same videos that were taken of Schivao
Not close at all.

But I have to admit I haven't seen these video's have you?

Have you seen any of the cat scans of this man's brain?
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