What if we weren't able to lease land for Hunting?
I've just been thinking, it seems that nowadays more and more hunting land is getting leased by people with money. Even some spots around here are getting leased, which is something I never heard of until 3-4 years ago. I really doubt this idea would ever go through, but do you think the majority of the hunters would be for a law that stops people from leasing land for hunting rights or against it, and why? I know in my neck of the woods, some law like this would be supported(at least by the non-landowner hunters, which is the majority), but I'm sure it'd be different in other parts of the country where people have to travel distances for nice deer and good hunting spots. Also do you think a law like this would have any effect of the deer? Visit My Hunting Page
RE: What if we weren't able to lease land for Hunting?
I wouldn't be for a law that would prohibit leasing land for hunting purposes because I think people should have the right to do as they wish with their land. However, leasing will be the downfall of hunting, period. Want to see where hunting is headed in the United States? Look no further than Great Britain. I've seen a big change just over the past ten years and it will only continue.
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I'd certainly hope that most people would be against a communist law like this. A landowner should be able to lease his land to whoever he wants. I get a sense on these boards that many hunters feel they have some God given right to trespass on others property to hunt. If it's not your land you have no right to it, period. It does seem to be the western and northern guys who have this attitude of "what's your is mine". Southerners tend to know better since trespassing will get you arrested if you're lucky and shot if you're not around here.
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I would support a law that prohibited enclosing Wild game within the confines of anyones property, I personaly would do away with leases also, but Amazingly I agree with tennesseeian on this one...Its your land...Hail Ceasar.
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I don't think it will be too much longer before the hunting community will consist of people with a lot of money, and people who own land. That is sad.
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Ben Garrett makes some great points. No, leasing land should be the landowners right, but it will be the downfall of hunting as we know it. I am fortunate in that I have permission to hunt some small tracts of land by a couple of landowners.........so that makes me a trespasser boltman?<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>I sense that you boltman, are a good ole boy who thinks anyone asking for permission is crazy, and that anyone who grants permission to hunt their land is not seizing on the opportunity to make some money. To each their own.
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I wish everyone could get a free ride and hunt for nothing more than a handshake and some back straps but it seems those days are almost gone. They have been gone here in Texas for years. Any law that prohibited leasing would no doubt be communist.(or maybe solcialist) I think the government already tries to much to tell land owners what to do with their land and I'd be against any such leasing law.
CougarMag, I can't speak for Boltman, but I will tell you what I thought he was referring to. If he's saying what I think he is, I agree 100% with him. I have noticed a large part of the members of this board have never had any part in leasing land. I'm glad, that is great for them. Slowly they are being forced to pay a fee to hunt or be kicked off the land they have hunted for years. I understand how that could make a person upset, no doubt about it. However, the adittudes that are displayed come across as "anti-landowner" adittudes. Guys on here are upset that a land owner would accept money from a hunter. Why wouldn't he accept money if someone was willing to pay?
To me it is as simple as supply and demand. I have something you want but Joe and Bill want it to. You can't all have it so there has to be a way to solve this. It comes down to compensation....money. Whoever is willing to pay the highest price wins. That is the exact principle that this country was founded on; the free market. I know that alot you don't understand why a land owner would accept money for hunting rights but to me it just seems so simple. Sure I agree that it would be better if everyone could hunt for free, like the old days but there are alot of people hunting now days and not enough land to go around.
I just try to look at things in a logical manner. Maybe I'm retarded or something but it just seems only logical for leasing to occur. I didn't say I liked it or that I wish it on everyone, but it seems like the only reasonable answer to the problem of supply and demand.
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RE: What if we weren't able to lease land for Hunting?
My plan to help combat this in what little ways I can will be to purchase land while I am alive. I hope to get friends involved too, creating larger tracts. Then, when I die, the stipulation in my will will be to donate the land to an organization, whether it is something like NWTF, RMEF, DU, etc... or I may donate it to the Boy Scouts so they can camp on teh land nad have fun, as long as they allow hunters on it in teh fall and winter.
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If it is your property, do whatever you want with it. Lease it, turn it into a water park or better yet, turn it into a huge erotic playground full of naked babes.
I really don't understand the arguement here or for that matter, the topic at hand. kshunter speaks of a law that stops people from leasing land for hunting rights. What????? I think boltman summed it up quite nicely. This type of law would be straight out of a black handbook written by a communist.
Cougarmag, I think you twisted up boltmans post just a little bit. He never said that if you had permission to hunt a tract of land that you were a trespasser. It is clear as day that he meant anyone who hunts on a piece of land without permission has NO RIGHT whatsoever being on this land. Example.....
I knew a guy who hunted a spread of property for 12 years for free with permission from the landowner. Well next hunting season rolls around and the landowner says that he is leasing it out to some extended family members this season and he was not aloud back. Well that didn't go over to well with this fella. He knew this property like the back of his hand and he had become one with the land so he hunted it anyways without permission. He figured he could hunt it because consciously it was his land too. WRONG! He didn't own the land so this made him a trespasser (Yankee attitude..lol).
Well I don't know if that made sense of not but 'leasing land for hunting' has been going on down here in Texas for a very long time so it isn't news to me. Again, if it's your land do whatever you want with it.
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RE: What if we weren't able to lease land for Hunting?
i would not suport a law that limited leasing for hunting.----if a law like that did get on the books you would see a rise in "day leasing" that is where the land is not leasd but you pay by the day for permision to hunt. which would raise the price evan more.------or if the law stoped all kinds of lsing. hunters would get "land owner" backv lash for depriving them of the extra money. and you still wouldnot be abail to hunt the land. then ther would be a big groth in CD permits and the such. -------------------------------------------------As a land owner itseams that some hunters want "some thing for nouthing" and are geting mad when they dont get it.-----if you as a hunter wont to hunt privt land with out leasing or hving to worry aabout your hunting spot being lased. there is a simple sloution buy land.-----from my point as a land owner it seams hunters are geting mad if the land is lesed. and that some hunters do not want to ownland or lease but theas same hunter wont to be abile to hunt privet land.. so it seames you wont me as a land owner to give my rights for you rights as a hunter. is that it???-------as bad as it sounds i would rather hunting die out than to give up any more rights as a land owner.----------this land is more to me than just land. my family has been onthis land scne before 1823. and i plan on some of us staying hear as long as there is a USA. no mater what happens to the hunting.----------to sum it up. it seams some here want the milk with out the responiilty of owning the cow and the ones agnsst lesing dont want to evan help with buying the cow's food but they want the best milk. L. O. D. Charter member
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What if we weren't able to lease land for Hunting?
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