Howard Dean, the Chairman of the Democratic Party (if I have the title wrong, and I may, someone please correct me) has suggested that the Democrats are going to go after all the states and not concede defeat in Red States where a gun culture or a jesus culture prevails (not his words, my rather crude and bold paraphasing). In particular:
"I was a governor who was endorsed every year by the National Rifle Association."
Guns, Dean predicted, would never come up - either pro or con - in his 50-state survey of what the Democratic message should be.
"Guns aren't an issue," he said. "If Philadelphia wants gun control, fine. If Alabama doesn't, also fine."
This seems a little disingenuous. Sure, this applies to Democratic candidates running for state offices, but not for national offices. Democratic Senators and Democratic Representatives vote on federal gun laws that prevail in all states, not just in Alabama and not just Philadelphia. This just sounds like another Democratic statement, a la John Kerry, "We are like you! We hunt too! We own guns!" It mattereth not what they say, if they have an established track record of voting anti gun, as Kerry did. Not to fight the last election, which is over, but to anticipate the tactics and deceit to be practiced upon gun owners in the next election cycle. "Oh no! We aren't like that! Democrats AREN'T anti-gun! We LOVE guns!" or, alternatively, "Oh no! We aren't anti-gun, we are gun-neutral! We didn't enact all those anti-gun laws, the Republicans did that!"
Maybe I'm reading this out of context. Dean may be saying something as simple as "Hey, we aren't going to make guns a campaign issue. We aren't, like that dummy Al Gore in 2000, going to shoot ourselves in the foot by rubbing your nose in Democratic anti-gun tendencies."
He's trying to change how they operate since most pundits (at least democratic ones) believe Gore lost in 2000 because of the democratic anti-gun stances.
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alsatian I have a strong feeling that the Democrats have finally woke up on the gun issue, not all of them, but the intelligant ones and realized that if they take an anti-gun stance either in campaigning or in putting forth a candidate who has an anti-gun voting record, they will lose again, there are pro-gun democrats out there and they have the voting record to prove it, if they do not put one of these forth as a candidate they can kiss the next elections good bye also.
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alsatian I have a strong feeling that the Democrats have finally woke up on the gun issue
i think this is exactly the case. there are progun Ds out there, in fact quite a lot in some states. i'm one of them. problem is, they have been shunned by the party elite for years.
the gun lobbey should view it as a compliment...a recognition on how americans view gun issues.
that being said, scrutinize ALL candidates closely, and make your own determination as to whether it's a position of convenience, or a position of conviction (or, as in most cases, a little bit of both).
Most Democrats like me are hunters and fishermen who own more than one gun. I am not sure what gun neutral is but as I told the NRA when I sent them my card back...If Daniel Boone himself ran as a Democrat they would spend another $20,000,000 to protray him as anti-gun and an Indian lover.
You can believe it or not but everybody believes in gun control measures...it just has to be based on consensus....freedom vs reality.
I told the NRA when I sent them my card back...If Daniel Boone himself ran as a Democrat they would spend another $20,000,000 to protray him as anti-gun and an Indian lover.
Democrats "Gun Neutral" ?
