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Old 04-07-2005, 01:00 AM   #1
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Default Results of the Minutemen in Arizona

I was wondering what do you think will come out of this. I would hope it would either cut down on the amount of illegals coming into the U.S. or more would get caught. But I don't know. There is a new aritcle on the drudge regarding the militia.

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Old 04-07-2005, 03:06 AM   #2
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I bet you see less illegals crossing the border.
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I read yesterday that they were moving to other areas where the minutemen are not and that the mex gov is telling them that they are likely to get shot if they cross so maybe it will make a difference at least for the short term. I hope these guys can keep up their presence for an extended period and see what the result is.
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They just need to expand to New Mexico, Texas and Kalifornia.
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:18 AM   #5
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I bet you see less illegals crossing the border.
There have been very few illegal entries in that part of Arizona since the Minutemen started a few days ago. That part of the border was getting up to 5,000 per day, and now it's down in the dozens or low hundreds from what reports say.
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Lets see, Mexico has posted signs saying its dangeous to cross the boarder there. The number of illegal entries is way down, and no one has been hunt. Sounds like its working to me.
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whether or not this is true remains to be determined...but if it is true, it certainly falls outside of the "observe and inform" justification that i have heard.

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TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - Three volunteers patrolling the border for illegal immigrants were being investigated after a man told authorities he was held against his will and forced to pose for a picture holding a T-shirt with a mocking slogan.

The volunteers said they were members of the Minuteman Project - a monthlong effort that has people from around the country fanned out along the border to report undocumented migrants and smugglers. Law enforcement officials have said they fear the project will lead to vigilante violence.

Border Patrol agents called in deputies from the Cochise County Sheriff's Office on Wednesday afternoon to report that an immigrant was detained by three men who identified themselves as project volunteers.

Carol Capas, a sheriff's office spokeswoman, said the 26-year-old Mexican man told agents he was physically restrained and forced to hold a shirt while his picture was taken and he was videotaped.


The shirt read: ``Bryan Barton caught an illegal alien and all I got was this T-shirt.''


Barton is one of the three volunteers. He told agents that they waved the man over to them, offered him food and water, and gave him the T-shirt and money before the Border Patrol arrived.


``All they did was provide water and wait for the Border Patrol,'' Minuteman spokesman Grey Deacon said. ``What's the big deal?''


Deacon said project organizers were told by sheriff's officials that the incident wasn't a problem. But Capas said the investigation was continuing and authorities were reviewing a videotape that Barton provided to deputies.


``We do not have the time nor the patience for anyone attempting to turn this situation into a three ring circus,'' Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever said in a statement.


Meanwhile, Border Patrol apprehensions of illegal immigrants have dropped notably in the Naco area since civilian volunteers began gathering there. Agency spokesmen credit an increased presence by Mexican authorities south of the border and say it's too soon to tell whether the volunteers are having an impact.


The volunteers, many of whom were recruited over the Internet, plan to watch the border throughout April and report any illegal activity to federal agents.


Except for Wednesday's incident, Border Patrol officials said the volunteers have remained peaceful. However, they have continued to unwittingly trip sensors that alert the agency to possible intruders, forcing agents to respond to false alarms. Authorities said volunteers' footprints have also made if difficult for agents to track illegal immigrants.


Francisco Garcia, a volunteer for a shelter in Altar, Mexico, some 60 miles south of the Mexico-Arizona border, has said the migrants he has encountered have dismissed the Minutemen simply as ``crazy people'' - but for migrants' rights activists the situation is worrisome.


``For us, it's clear to see things could get out of control because those in the migration business are not easily intimidated,'' Garcia said. ``We're afraid an aggression could escalate into an international incident.''
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and that the mex gov is telling them that they are likely to get shot if they cross so maybe it will make a difference at least for the short term.
Thats actually propaganda perpetrated by Vicente himself. He tells the US presscorp that while telling the mexicans to run into the US
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:00 AM   #9
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Looks like Arnie is at it again.CNN
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SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who outraged some Mexican-American groups last week by calling for a closed border, praised the civilian volunteer Minuteman Project for its patrols to spot illegal immigrants.
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SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who outraged some Mexican-American groups last week by calling for a closed border, praised the civilian volunteer Minuteman Project for its patrols to spot illegal immigrants.

the cost of illegals in Kookafornia has exceeded the 10 Billion/year mark as of last year.

and the kicker is that virtually all of them have anchor babies...[:@]
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