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Old 04-01-2005, 10:38 AM   #1
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VATICAN SAYS POPE'S CONDITION HAS WORSENED...
POPE SUFFERING FROM HEART AND KIDNEY PROBLEMS...
Breathing 'has become shallow' and his kidney function is deteriorating...
Suffering low blood pressure...
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Old 04-01-2005, 10:47 AM   #2
 
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Thats because his infection has gone systemic.

Rarely in cases such as his do the patients last 48 hours.


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Old 04-01-2005, 10:51 AM   #3
 
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unplug him, let him die a peacful death. It might take a few days for him to dehydrate and his body fail ........... but hey, no big deal there, right ?
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I don't think he's gonna live for fifteen years in a vegetative state with or without being "plugged in"
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unplug him, let him die a peacful death. It might take a few days for him to dehydrate and his body fail ........... but hey, no big deal there, right ?
Just can't let it go, can you SC?

Besides, the Pope wishes are well known in this matter, and he wishes to be kept alive as long as possible, so "pulling the plug" would be out of the question in this case. If he had made it know that he wanted no extraordinary measures taken, then that's his choice and the doctors should comply with his wishes.

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Old 04-01-2005, 10:56 AM   #6
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gotta give him credit though--he is (was) still tryin'
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Yeah i don't think he is going to last too much longer
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He's not trying, his mind is in a vegatative state, he's already dead because as we've discussed here without the mind, there is no human life, just a shell of a body that is NOT a living human being.

Hes still fighting to live ? How do you figure ? He's less alive that Terri was. I bet he's laying there, comatose, his mind is gone, his body is struggling even with machines to keep going. Terri's body didn't need machines to keep it alive.

And you're right, I won't let it go. Terri's body was in FAR better condition than the Pope's is and her mind questionably better yet she was allowed to dehydrate to death in the name of "peaceful death". Let the Pope go Peacefully ............ and please show me where he said he wanted to live in a vegatative/comatose state ?
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Data

you sure are full of speculation and conjecture today, aren't you?
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The focus has changed somewhat from Terri to the Pope. Just yeterday a lady finally died after suffering for 15 years. She should have died with more dignity.

Now we hear Pope John Paul is is failing. Hopefully his suffering will be mininum and he will reach his final reward soon.
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