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Old 03-25-2005, 04:38 PM   #1
 
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According to the State Department's annual drug-trafficking report, a federal law took effect in 1985 authorizing the United States to penalize countries that do not control illicit narcotics production. Today, these same countries are now producing larger quantities of heroin, cocaine, marijuana and other drugs, Furthermore, three years after installing a pro-U.S. government, Afghanistan has been unable to contain opium poppy production and is on the verge of becoming a narcotics state. Opium poppy is the raw material for heroin. Colombia is the source of more than 90 percent of the cocaine and 50 percent of the heroin entering the United States. The report also listed Mexico as a major producer of heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana destined for U.S. markets. Source: New York Times and Associated Press.

Some would argue that the only solution would be the legalization of drugs. By removing the criminality of drug sales, possession and usage, the United States government could devote more of its law enforcement resources on other crimes such as murder, rape, assault etc. Furthermore, they argue that regulation of such drugs could create a revenue enhancement for federal, state and local governments. The counter argument suggests that by legalizing drugs, the government grants an implicit consent that drug consumption is morally acceptable. Others argue that the U.S. should focus more on the demand side of the problem by increasing funds for psychiatric and psychological counseling. Their argument is based on the idea that if the individual is properly counseled and medicated, the demand for illegal narcotics would drop significantly. The counter argument is that this solution is cost prohibitive and will only result in replacing one problem with another. Still others offer a more hard-line approach when it comes to dealing with foreign countries such as setting a deadline for the removal of narcotics production. If the deadline passes, the U.S. should utilize various crop-field-burning methods so as to totally obliterate any type of crop production. This would effectively eliminate the central piece of drug production across the planet. The counter argument, however, is that this policy would prevent farmers from switching to other crops in order to earn a legitimate living. I believe that the problem of illegal narcotics in the United States poses a greater threat to the average citizen than any terrorist and/or nuclear threat in existence today. Perhaps a balanced integration of all three of these solutions is our only answer.
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Old 03-25-2005, 04:59 PM   #2
 
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The Chinese solution worked pretty well for them. It was brutal but there were no second offenses, they simply shot them. Users, dealers and suppliers. Wouldn't the ACLU have a hemhorage about that!!?!
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I won't pretend to know what the answer is to the war on drugs. But I know one thing: We can never legalize drugs. Never. If we take that approach, where do we draw the line? With marijuana? Cocaine? Heroin?

I've said it before on here, but I'll keep harping about it: If we're going to legalize drugs - and I assume this means we're going to legalize all drugs - then we're going to be giving a free ticket to those who want to use methamphetamine. There's no way this drug can ever be legalized. If ever a threat existed to our society, this is it. When you consider that some 95 percent of those who try the drug for the first time will become addicted to it, that only 5 percent to 10 percent of those addicted to it will never beat the addiction, that hard-core users of the drug have a life expectancy of only five to seven years, and that it leads to violent crimes unlike any drug we've ever seen, there's no way that we can legalize that drug.
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I love the China idea!If the ACLU lawers have a problem we find a few drugs on them,soon they'll see it our way.It would cut down on welfare,reduce taxes.Damn his is getting good.
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We can never legalize drugs. Never. If we take that approach, where do we draw the line? With marijuana? Cocaine? Heroin?
You kidding me, weve already legalized alchol, you think thats not a drug. Alchol does more damage than the above 3 combined. And I guess you never had a few drinks right? right?
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The Chinese solution worked pretty well for them. It was brutal but there were no second offenses, they simply shot them. Users, dealers and suppliers. Wouldn't the ACLU have a hemhorage about that!!?!
Hand the ACLU a baggie of dope first????[8D]
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This country has accepted alcohol as a legal drug, we have a strong aversion to other drugs being legalized. Denmark is a great example of why legalizing drugs is a bad idea.
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Old 03-26-2005, 07:08 PM   #8
 
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excellent points and analysis...illegal narcotics are a symptom of our country imploding (addiction) as compared to exploding (terrorists)...

as for China, there are two ways to handle drug problem...the right way and the wong way
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I love the China idea!

In Malaysia they used to have billboards up along the streets that read:

"Dada is death" (drugs are death). They freely and openly advertised that if you're caught, you will die.

The issue of legalization is never looked at from the perspective of societal impact.

Look at the huge abuses in the welfare system etc. You know damn well that if dope was ever legalized we would be paying through the nose for taxpayer funded rehab and eventually the actual purchasing of the dope for the users.

Then we have the issue of the huge industry the drugs provide. All of the rehab centers, law enforcement etc. etc. is a multibillion dollar sink hole.

Problem is, the laws that are in effect are extremely weakly adhered to regarding border traffic. If this multibillione dollar war is so effective as it stands, why is it that I know for a fact I could drive down to milwaukee, knock on a door and get coke if I so desired. The crap is coming in this country by the hundreds of tons.

We can chase down a single cow from canada suspected of having mad cow, but we supposedly can't (and won't) do anything about dope smuggling and illegals.

Truth be told, I don't think the powers that be want to do anything about it, they pay it lip service and zap the taxpayers for billions.
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Old 03-27-2005, 09:37 AM   #10
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This is a problem easily solved with very little cost or enforcment.Any time we pick up a truck load of coke instead of dumping it we need to mix it with a mild poison,enough to kill some ,make some real sick you get the idea. A couple of years of this and even the dumb ones will get the point.
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