Gannon/Guckert Conservative or Escort? Oh the hypocrasy!

[JoeA]

Check this link for information on how Jeff Gannon was spouting off about "core conservative values" and presenting himself as a supporter & defender of the Bush administration...while....at the same time promoting himself & his "services" on other webpages representing other values.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/8/123054/5928

[Carpicon]

So wait...let me make sure that I've got this straight.

Liberals love gay people, they stick up for cartoon characters when they are called gay, they constantly tell us that we have to accept the gay lifestyle, that it is a personal private matter, etc.

Then comes along Jeff Gannon a second-rate web-news reporter, and the way that they discredit him is by telling everyone he is gay.

I sure hope that you will come along and tell us what Markos' official position is on which gay people we're supposed to hold up as heros and which we're supposed to tear down.

This story is about as newsworthy as the bottle of Elmer's glue I keep on my workbench.

[JoeA]

No. The point is that many conservative mouth pieces have done exactly what you claim. Attacking someone characters for politcal reasons. Now, crying foul when the tables are turned...that where the hypocrasy is.

Somebody very high up signed off on his press access. That whoever is part of an administration that claims a mandate based on representing certain core values.
If the Bill-Monica thang represented a affront to certain conservastive values, then WTF is this?

The real story, behind the "gay smoke screen" here is that he had access beyond the reach of other reporters, and gave late night "tours" with underage males in a big house on PA ave. He bragged about access to files & materials that only a small select group in the WH normally open. It's all there, no manufacured facts to fit a preconcieved conspriacty theory.

[tardfarmer]

OLD story.

That was news about 3 weeks ago.

But because he's a supposed "conservative" he'll be keel hauled -- unlike Barney Frank who had a male "escort service" run out of his house.

[Carpicon]

No, there are manufactured facts.

One must assume that the Bush administration knew that he once was a male escort, or knew that he was posting nekkid pictures of himself on the internet. Do you know if they did?

Also, and I could be wrong, but I don't think that Jeff Gannon/Guckert ever wrote specifically about homosexuality, pornography, or prostitution. If he didn't that doesn't make him a hypocrite, it makes him a gay reporter who likes to take pictures of his wang.

I've been hearing about this stuff for five years now. Lefties getting themselves all pumped up for the latest "scandal", screaming "THIS will be the one that brings him down!"

They're starting to sound like Cub fans. "Just wait till next year!"

Again, this story is meaningless. Nobody except Keith Olberman and other lefties care.

[Strange Biller]

One must assume that the Bush administration knew that he once was a male escort, or knew that he was posting nekkid pictures of himself on the internet. Do you know if they did?

Either they knew and didn't care, or they didn't find out and this is an example of the most piss-poor background check in the history of the country. It was on his freakin' website - you think the Secret Service could have found that with a little looking.

As for the hypocrisy, I haven't heard anyone on the left suggesting the problem lies with the fact that he is gay, but with the hypocrisy of being a loud mouthed supporter of conservative values while running being a gay hooker. The same would have been said if he turned out to be an IV drug user or was a woman and was a prostitute - the hypocrisy comes from saying one thing and doing another. Turn that any way you want, that's what happened here.

Now, that sais, this story isn't going anywhere. I predicted that on another board when the story broke and it's basically dead now.

[Carpicon]

the hypocrisy of being a loud mouthed supporter of conservative values while running being a gay hooker. The same would have been said if he turned out to be an IV drug user or was a woman and was a prostitute - the hypocrisy comes from saying one thing and doing another. Turn that any way you want, that's what happened here.

Again, did Gannon/Guckert ever speak out about homosexuality, pornography, or prostitution? If he did, he's a hypocrite, if not he's just another gay prostitute.

A fine example of this is Bill Bennett. Guy espouses conservative values all day long, but it was found out that he gambles a lot. Even though he spoke about many things that he considered immoral behavior, he never spoke about gambling. Not a hypocrite.

Either they knew and didn't care, or they didn't find out and this is an example of the most piss-poor background check in the history of the country. It was on his freakin' website - you think the Secret Service could have found that with a little looking.

You are right about that though.

[Charlie P]

The thing about this if it was that easy for this guy to get next to the President, how hard would it be for some one that has good fake backround that wants to kill him?

[Strange Biller]

Again, did Gannon/Guckert ever speak out about homosexuality, pornography, or prostitution? If he did, he's a hypocrite, if not he's just another gay prostitute.

A fine example of this is Bill Bennett. Guy espouses conservative values all day long, but it was found out that he gambles a lot. Even though he spoke about many things that he considered immoral behavior, he never spoke about gambling. Not a hypocrite.

I disagree - if you are espousing "traditional values" that encompases porn and prostitution.

Same thing with Bennet - he spoke not just about specific issues, but about "traditional values" - when you do this, you open yourself to a lot.

[Carpicon]

I will remember that and I will feel free to pigeon-hole you into any position that I believe fits with your overall philosophy.