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Old 03-07-2005, 12:23 PM   #1
 
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As Clinton Wins G.O.P. Friends, Her Rivals' Task Toughens
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Published: March 6, 2005


The intimate gathering at a private home in Corning, N.Y., was pretty typical for an upstate fund-raiser featuring Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton: dozens of donors clustered in the terrace, listening to her speak, as they sipped wine and nibbled on hors d'oeuvres.

But one thing made the event unusual: The host was a prominent Republican businessman whose brother Amo Houghton was the popular nine-term Republican congressman from the area who, it turns out, gives Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, an "A-plus" for the job she is doing.

His brother James, chairman of Corning Inc., agreed. "When I introduced Hillary, I told the crowd that the last time a Houghton had a fund-raiser for a Democrat was about 1812," he said.

With her 2006 re-election campaign approaching, New York Republican leaders vow to rally party loyalists in a broad effort to topple Mrs. Clinton, who has long engendered deep antipathy on the right.

But as the fund-raiser last year in the heavily Republican town of Corning illustrated, the party may have a bit of a problem on its hands.

In the four years since taking office, Mrs. Clinton has managed to cultivate a bipartisan, above-the-fray image that has made her a surprisingly welcome figure in some New York Republican circles, even as she remains exceedingly popular with her liberal base.

A recent poll by The New York Times, for example, showed that Mrs. Clinton's popularity had sharply improved among Republicans voters surveyed, with 49 percent saying they approved of the job she was doing, compared with 37 percent who expressed similar sentiments in October 2002.

But perhaps nothing demonstrates her improved standing with the opposition as much as the close ties she has forged with many leading Republican officials in the state, who say that they have been pleasantly surprised by what they describe as the nuts-and-bolts pragmatism of her style.

Only five years ago, for example, Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of Buffalo mocked Mrs. Clinton as a "a tourist who has lost her way," alluding to the fact that she had not lived in New York before deciding to run for the Senate.

But these days, Mr. Reynolds, a Republican who is frequently mentioned as a possible candidate for speaker of the House, says he considers Ms. Clinton an ally in his effort to deliver aid to western New York.

In fact, he said that his work with Mrs. Clinton had prompted the local newspaper in his district to call them the "odd couple."

"I like Senator Clinton," said Mr. Reynolds, a friend and adviser to Gov. George E. Pataki. "I've found that when she says she will take on a job with me, she does it."

But surely Mr. Reynolds wants a Republican to take Mrs. Clinton's seat, no? "New York is a big blue state," he responded, referring to the states with large Democratic voter enrollment. "I will work with whoever the electorate puts in those positions."

Nobody expects top Republicans like Mr. Reynolds to cross party lines and endorse Mrs. Clinton. But some political strategists say the Republican Party will have a hard time making a strong case against her, since she will be able to point to the positive reviews she has gotten from her Republican colleagues over the year.

"It certainly helps to neutralize the attacks against her," said Lee M. Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.

The emerging view of Mrs. Clinton among leading New York Republicans would have been unimaginable four years ago, when her political rivals cast her as a carpetbagger who had no real interest in New York beyond seeing it as a springboard to the presidency.

Political analysts say that Mrs. Clinton's improved standing reflects her meticulous efforts to win over critics - as well as the tendency among politicians to look past party differences and find common interests once in office.

But these strategists also say that the unusually open support she is enjoying among Republicans highlights a lack of party discipline that has been plaguing the New York Republican Party in recent years.

Mr. Miringoff said that many rank-and-file Republicans apparently felt they had less to lose in bucking the party leadership than in straining relations with a highly popular United States senator.

"It's a party that is really hurting," Mr. Miringoff said, referring to Republicans. "And so self-interest and self-preservation are taking over."

The Republicans giving Mrs. Clinton high marks include Representative John M. McHugh, who represents New York's economically beleaguered North Country, a politically conservative region that Mrs. Clinton visits frequently.

In an interview, the congressman said that Mrs. Clinton had been helpful to him from her seat on the Senate Armed Services Committee in steering money to Fort Drum, an Army base in Watertown that provides an economic lift to the area.

"Our other senators have been helpful," he said, referring to the work Mrs. Clinton's predecessors have done on behalf of Fort Drum. "But they have not had the advantage of being on the authorizing committee."

As for the 2006 Senate race, he did not sound particularly enthusiastic about the prospect of campaigning against Mrs. Clinton. "We share constituents," explained Mr. McHugh, "and, frankly, the challenges are big enough without erecting artificial partisan barriers."

Another Republican, Representative Peter T. King of Nassau County, struck a similar note in recent interview. He described Mrs. Clinton as a celebrity senator who is willing to take a subordinate role on an issue she cares about, rather than allowing her involvement to become a distraction.

For instance, Mr. King recalled an occasion when Mrs. Clinton suggested that he find another senator to be a co-sponsor of legislation that would benefit New York, because she figured that her presence on the bill would fire up the opposition. "There are very few politicians in public life who have the composure to step back, knowing that they will win in the end," he said.

Mr. King also said that Mrs. Clinton had been anything but the liberal extremist that her conservative critics accused her of being. "I'm not going to vote for her and probably disagree with her on 70 percent of the issues," he said. "But I think that too many Republicans who criticize Hillary Clinton sound like Michael Moore criticizing George Bush."
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:28 PM   #2
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I'm actually starting to fear Hillary. People are forgetting what a Machiavellian shrew she is.

Couple that with the fact that lately she's been moving to the right faster than Brooks Robinson, and "I've got a bad feeling about this."

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Old 03-07-2005, 12:37 PM   #3
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Couple that with the fact that lately she's been moving to the right faster than Brooks Robinson, and "I've got a bad feeling about this."
Yeah, I couldn't help but notice she didn't use to start her speeches with, "Good morning! This is the day the Lord has made! Let us rejoice and be glad in it, and I am so happy to be here with you!"
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:50 PM   #4
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With dimwit wya leading the GOP we should worry.
It was realy nice to see "No new taxs Bush " Sucking up to the other Clinton.
We had damn well better get or head out of the sand WYA is an IDIOT that did not fall far from the family tree.
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:55 PM   #5
 
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But one thing made the event unusual: The host was a prominent Republican businessman whose brother Amo Houghton was the popular nine-term Republican congressman from the area who, it turns out, gives Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, an "A-plus" for the job she is doing.

I told you guys why the republiclones are in bed with the demosocialists, and now hitlery.

She is a BIG advocate of outsourcing and is in bed with the TATA Consultancy group in India which functions to take engineering/software/manufacturing jobs away from the U.S.

This is no surprise to me.
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Old 03-07-2005, 01:22 PM   #6
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With dimwit wya leading the GOP we should worry.
It was realy nice to see "No new taxs Bush " Sucking up to the other Clinton.
We had damn well better get or head out of the sand WYA is an IDIOT that did not fall far from the family tree.
he he he . . .

While I'm certainly no apologist for W, I am still living in the real world.

"dimwit?" "IDIOT?"

That's what Gore and Kerry and Dachle and Gephardt and Edwards and who else . . . let me see Dean and Gen Clark and hell, even John McCain.

You numnuts keep on thinking that he's a dimwit. Meanwhile, you are standing there with your unit in your hand.
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You numnuts keep on thinking that he's a dimwit. Meanwhile, you are standing there with your unit in your hand.

Are you peeking under my desk?
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Old 03-07-2005, 01:53 PM   #8
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You numnuts keep on thinking that he's a dimwit. Meanwhile, you are standing there with your unit in your hand.

Are you peeking under my desk?
he he he chuckle . . . .
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I think the Rebulicans are actually moving to the left nowadays.

Id support Hillary under the right conditions.
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I think the Rebulicans are actually moving to the left nowadays.
FINALLY SOMEONE ADMITS IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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