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Old 02-22-2005, 12:34 PM   #1
 
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DUNEDIN, Florida (AP) -- A Florida appeals court allowed a stay to expire Tuesday that had blocked the husband of a severely brain-damaged woman from removing her feeding tube.

The 2nd District Court of Appeal offered no specific instructions in a one-page mandate issued in the case of Terri Schiavo, who was left brain damaged 15 years ago.

The ruling means Michael Schiavo could order his 41-year-old wife's tube
removed within hours of the appeals court action, which ended the last judicial stay blocking the tube's removal.

But Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, were seeking an emergency stay from a Pinellas County judge in hopes of keeping their daughter alive long enough for them to file additional legal pleadings in the case.

It would likely take several days for Terri Schiavo to die if the tube is pulled.

The appeals court's mandate allowed Michael Schiavo to act under previous court rulings in the years-long, highly emotional legal battle.

The appeals court has consistently upheld lower court rulings that Terri Schiavo had expressed wishes not to be kept alive artificially, although she left no written directive.

In October 2003, she went without food or water for six days before Gov. Jeb Bush pushed through a new law letting him order the tube be reinserted.

The Florida Supreme Court later struck down his action as unconstitutional.

The long-running case has drawn international attention and debate, and rallied religious forces worldwide. Some doctors have ruled Terri Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state; others believe she has some mental abilities.

Terri Schiavo, 41, left no written will when she collapsed in 1990 from what doctors said was a chemical imbalance that stopped her heart. She still breathes on her own but relies on the tube for food and water.

Her husband has said she never wanted to be kept alive artificially.


The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to consider a legal challenge to "Terri's Law," the measure pushed by Bush in 2003 to keep her alive after the courts had cleared the way for her death.

Last year, a judge issued an indefinite stay blocking the tube's removal pending the Schindlers' appeals.

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A living human body, is her mind alive ? One cannot be without the other, right ? Or can it ? In this case, her body would die only if it didn't get water/nurishment. Her body breathes on its own, it IS a living human body with no mind accompanying it (save for involuntary brain waves)
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My main thought on this one is how cruel it seems to starve someone to death.
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I hope her husband wins out. While I understand her parent's point of view, she's not a child anymore. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I believe that once you move out of mom & dad's and in with your husband (or wife), they no longer have any say in your life or death.

While technically "alive", I don't believe she is "living". She breathes and makes awkward facial expressions. From the evidence I've gathered from various news sources, she does not have any consciousness. Consciousness is what seperates humans from lower species (and thus gives us human rights). A body without a mind is just a body.

And if she stated that she doesn't want to be a vegetable, then for pete's sake let her go in peace.
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What if they're not conscious?
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I hope her husband wins out. While I understand her parent's point of view, she's not a child anymore. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I believe that once you move out of mom & dad's and in with your husband (or wife), they no longer have any say in your life or death.
It's been a while, but don't some suspect the husband as being responsible for her condition, and isn't there life insurance in store for him?
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It's been a while, but don't some suspect the husband as being responsible for her condition, and isn't there life insurance in store for him?
Her husband altered her brain chemistry to induce a heart attack? Seems like a stretch.

And life insurance? So what? I mean come on, even if he doesn't have money coming to him, do you think he wants to watch his wife roll around in her own filth until he dies? That has to be incredibly painful to see her go from the woman he fell in love with to an empty shell of a person. Brain activity arguments aside, according to the doctors she has no chance of recovery!
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In response to your question, another question: Is she dead?

Is there a third choice? Either you're alive, or dead, right? Well, she doesn't seem dead to me, so she must be alive.

And why is it that they want to remove the tube? So she can die. Again, how can you die, if you're not alive?
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Her husband altered her brain chemistry to induce a heart attack? Seems like a stretch.
Like I said, it's been a while since I saw in-depth reporting on this, but I think he was suspected of poisoning her.
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Like I said, it's been a while since I saw in-depth reporting on this, but I think he was suspected of poisoning her.
Well, Bush was suspected of inviting bin Laden to Crawford. If someone can bring forth conclusive evidence of either, I'll listen. So far, hasn't happened.
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hope her husband wins out. While I understand her parent's point of view, she's not a child anymore.

part of the reason that Jeb reversed the order was because her "husband" turned out to be a total tool. While she lay there he knocked up some other broad and had two kids, he essentially abandoned her and then married the new gal. Plus there is the issue of the will wherein he declared bankruptcy (if I remember correctly) and was chomping at the bit for the money when she died.

In an instance like that, I can understand and back Jeb's decision, she is now (in my opinion) back in the custody and care of her parents and immediate family.

Her "ex" can go to hell as far as i'm concerned.
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