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Old 02-05-2005, 09:59 AM   #1
 
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Am I reading this right? guy says he's getting a gun and then points a laser pointer at a LEO that is carrying a shotgun? How bright is that?!
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Officials: Fla. Deputy Fatally Shoots Man Who Pointed Laser

POSTED: 11:38 am EST February 4, 2005

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. -- A Pinellas County sheriff's deputy fatally shot a man early Friday after the man apparently pointed a laser at the deputy and two colleagues.

Thomas D. Setzer, 24, was pronounced dead at a local hospital after being hit with a shotgun blast fired by Deputy Ryan Buckley, sheriff's spokeswoman Marianne Pasha said.

Pasha said Buckley, 32, and two other deputies were meeting in a parking lot next to an apartment complex at about 3 a.m. when a laser was pointed at them from a second-floor apartment. Some guns are equipped with lasers to help them aim and the deputies feared someone might be preparing to fire at them. (my insert: No kidding! I would be a little worried too!!)

The deputies went to investigate and heard a man's voice from behind a door say he was going to get a gun. A woman believed to be Setzer's girlfriend and a girl came out of the apartment, and deputies were trying to get Setzer out when the shooting occurred.

Details of what happened between Buckley, who has been with the department for nine years, and Setzer were not clear. Pasha said the shooting is being investigated by the department's internal affairs unit and the state attorney's office.
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Edit: just read it again. He points the laser first and then says something about getting a gun. I must be too tired.
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:03 AM   #2
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Its called suicide by cop...crazy
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:03 AM   #3
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Ummm, what did this idiot think the cops were going to do? One less idiot to reproduce?
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Old 02-05-2005, 02:45 PM   #4
 
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The deputies went to investigate and heard a man's voice from behind a door say he was going to get a gun.

That is the crux of the matter, not a laser, but the fact he threatened to get a firearm.
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Old 02-05-2005, 02:52 PM   #5
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I disagree tard. The laser is also extremely relevant in this incident. The girlfriend needs to institute some sort of IQ test for future potential boyfriends before one of them gets her killed for being with somebody terminally stupid.
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The deputies went to investigate and heard a man's voice from behind a door say he was going to get a gun.

That is the crux of the matter, not a laser, but the fact he threatened to get a firearm.
Adding a high potential threat like a laser represents a substantial increase in risk from their POV ,
I don't blame them a bit this time .

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This incident occurred about 8 miles from where I live. The reports here are saying there was a lot of threats made by the man in the apartment long before any shots were fired. He repeatedly told police he had a gun and was intending to use it. It escalated from there.
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The girlfriend needs to institute some sort of IQ test for future potential boyfriends before one of them gets her killed for being with somebody terminally stupid.

I'm not defending the retard, i'm merely saying the crux was his stupid reaction.

If I flashed a hand held laser into your squad, you investigated, I opened the door and said "sorry, i was screwing around... won't happen again"

are you telling me you're going to shoot me?

It wasn't the laser per se, it was the idiots reaction.
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The girlfriend needs to institute some sort of IQ test for future potential boyfriends before one of them gets her killed for being with somebody terminally stupid.

I'm not defending the retard, i'm merely saying the crux was his stupid reaction.

If I flashed a hand held laser into your squad, you investigated, I opened the door and said "sorry, i was screwing around... won't happen again"

are you telling me you're going to shoot me?

It wasn't the laser per se, it was the idiots reaction.
You've presented an entirely different scenario but that is probably because you are intelligent and this guy was a terminally stupid moron. In your scenario, you point a laser by accident and then immediately apologize. In the original scenario, there is no apology and when the deputies attempt to contact the laser pointing person, he threatens to go get a gun. A huge difference.

As for if I had a laser pointed at my squad, I would be getting out of that squad with gun drawn, seeking cover and where the laser was being pointed from. Most lasers that I encounter do have guns attached to them and I would want to take no chances before I could ensure I wasn't about to be shot. And no, I wouldn't shoot you. It would be too funny hearing you describe the pleasures of handcuffs on the way to the station.[8D] You thilly savage you.
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The lesson to be learned from this is.....


Don't take just the laser to a gun fight.
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If you say you have a gun your better have one or you lose by your "default"
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