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Old 02-02-2005, 02:28 PM   #1
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City health officials are investigating the death of a baby boy who was one of three infants to contract herpes after a rabbi circumcised them.

Ten days after Rabbi Yitzhok Fischer performed religious circumcisions on twins last October, one died of herpes and the other tested positive for the virus, according to a complaint filed by the health department in Manhattan Supreme Court.

The complaint, reported in Wednesday"™s edition of the New York Daily News, also said health officials later found a third baby who had contracted herpes after being circumcised by Fischer in late 2003.

Under Jewish law, a mohel "” someone who performs circumcisions "” draws blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand with a suction device, but Fischer uses a practice rare outside strict Orthodox groups where he uses his mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin.

Herpes can cause potentially severe complications for infants because of their undeveloped immune systems. A recent study published in the journal Pediatrics found that the rare ritual puts newborns at serious risk of contracting herpes simplex virus and shouldn't be performed as part of the circumcision procedure.

Fischer"™s lawyer, Mark Kurzmann, told the Daily News that Fischer was cooperating with the investigation, although it"™s unclear whether Fischer submitted to the city"™s request for a blood test.

"œMy client is known internationally as a caring, skilled, and conscientious mohel," Kurzmann said
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Old 02-02-2005, 02:28 PM   #2
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And what is you do for a living sir?

You guys remember the SNL skit where the rabbi does circumcisms in the back of a moving town car? It was a spoof of their commercial where the hd a diamond cutter splitting diamonds in the back of the car.
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Interesting and very sad. This is one of those things where it is very hard to make a decision on what should be done. In essense, he was doing nothing wrong. He was acting within his (and the child's parents') religious beliefs. However I think there should be some discretion in this, with the fact that just about everyone has Herpes (cold sores, etc), and I am sure that is what caused this (not the herpes that most people think about when it gets talked about).
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Old 02-02-2005, 02:37 PM   #4
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You think a mohel has to carry malpractice insurance?
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Sucking the blood from a fresh circumcision is a religious belief ? I do not believe that for one minute
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Old 02-02-2005, 02:57 PM   #6
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You guys remember the SNL skit where the rabbi does circumcisms in the back of a moving town car? It was a spoof of their commercial where the hd a diamond cutter splitting diamonds in the back of the car.
Ah, the Royal Deluxe II! Classic, classic SNL.

This stuff up in NYC is disgusting. I'm all for allowing people to practice their faith as they wish, but a line has to be drawn when the practice ends up killing people.
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but Fischer uses a practice rare outside strict Orthodox groups where he uses his mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin.

Interestingly enough, on a per capita basis the Jews have had just as much problems with child molestation as the RCC did. But the media doesn't report it.

The Jews even lambast and defile one of their own that doesn't "tow the liberal jewish line" -- Raabi Mermerstein of the JPFO (jews for the protection of firearms ownership) - Harland Wisconsin.
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You think a mohel has to carry malpractice insurance?
I was wondering the same thing. I would assume they would have to.
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Sucking the blood from a fresh circumcision is a religious belief ? I do not believe that for one minute
When you consider it's creepy resemblance to a somewhat different practice that it happens to resemble I have a tough time believing that it's even legal . Aren't they currently crucifying Catholic priests for doing nearly the same thing ? Other than the bloody and unnecessary wounding part the only real differences are motivation and duration . I know , I know , it's a religious thing , I wouldn't understand ...
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