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Old 01-31-2005, 07:05 PM   #1
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http://www.dw-world.de/dw/briefs/0%2...2950%2C00.html

Germany Seen Crawling with Russian Spies


About 130 Russian spies are currently undercover in Germany, almost as many as were deployed there by the

KGB during the Cold War, according to the latest edition of the German news magazine Focus. German political parties, companies, the armed forces and scientific research establishments were targeted by post-communist

Russian espionage, said the report quoting German authorities. The article, released in advance of Monday's ediiton, quoted an official of the German Federal Criminal Investigation Agency (BKA) as saying these targets were spied on "in an extremely aggressive way." It also quoted an unnamed senior official of Germany's domestic counter-intelligence service as saying Russian intelligence had been

strongly reinforced of late, so that almost as many operatives were now undercover on German territory as there were Soviet KGB agents there during the Cold War. Russian-German relations are generally perceived as being cordial. German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and Russian President Vladimir Putin have strengthened friendly links between the two countries. The leaders speak German together, a language Putin learned as a KGB agent based in Dresden in former East Germany during the Cold War.


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...2559%2C00.html

N A T I O N
The Russians Are Coming
The FBI is concerned about Moscow's growing number of spies. What secrets are they looking for?
By TIMOTHY J. BURGER AND BRIAN BENNETT



Sunday, Jan. 30, 2005
At Los Angeles International Airport two weeks ago, FBI agents arrested an Irish businessman they had spent a week tailing all over California's Silicon Valley, from the offices of two electronics manufacturers in Sunnyvale to a hotel in Mountain View and down a quiet cul-de-sac to a suburban house in San Jose. The technology exporter, according to court papers, had purchased sophisticated computer components in the U.S. to send to Russia through Ireland. He now stands to be charged in mid-February with "unlawful export of 'defense articles.'" U.S. officials point to this little-noticed case as one manifestation of a troubling reality: although the cold war is long over, Russia is fielding an army of spooks in the U.S. that is at least equal in number to the one deployed by the old, much larger Soviet Union.

Russia runs more than 100 known spies under official cover in the U.S., senior U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement officials say. And those are just the more easily spotted spies working under the classic guise of diplomat. An unknown number of so-called nocs"who work under nonofficial cover as businessmen and -women, journalists or academics"undoubtedly expand the Russian spy force. "They're baaaaack," says a former senior U.S. intelligence official who worked against Moscow during the cold war. "They're busy as hell, but I don't think we've really got what it is that they're doing." The number of Russian spies in the U.S. is especially surprising, given that it was less than four years ago that the Bush Administration expelled 50 of them in retaliation for the humiliating discovery that FBI counterintelligence agent Robert Hanssen had been spying for Russia for 21 years.

In a high-level meeting late last year, officials tell TIME, the National Security Council instructed the FBI, CIA, State Department and other agencies to get a better handle on the Russian espionage threat. While the U.S. might like to eject suspect diplomats to force the Russians to send in their "rookies," as a U.S. official put it, Moscow would probably respond in kind, denting the CIA's corps in Russia.

As the FBI has remade itself in the wake of 9/11 into a counterterrorism agency, the bureau's long-standing counterintelligence mission has been bumped down a notch on the priority list. During this time, Russia has been among the U.S.'s rivals most aggressively exploiting the opening to build up its spying capabilities. Also, it has been using liberalized immigration rules for Russians, instituted after the cold war, to install nocs.

Officials say the Russians are after secrets about American military technology and hardware, dual-use technology such as the latest lasers, and the Administration's plans and intentions regarding the former Soviet states, China, the Middle East and U.S. energy policy, among other matters. Russia also wants to learn as much as possible about its biggest strategic worry: the U.S.'s ramped-up commitment to missile defense, which could eventually threaten Moscow's nuclear deterrent. Asked about the Russian spy surge, Russian embassy spokesman Yevgeniy Khorishko replied, "We do not comment on any of the issues concerning intelligence."

In addition to embassy-based spies, Russia"along with China, Pakistan, Iran and any number of other countries, including U.S. allies"relies on many hard-to-trace front companies, often run through third-party countries, to acquire secrets and dual-use technology. "We think there are thousands of these companies," a senior U.S. official said.

David Szady, the FBI's assistant director for counterintelligence, who is in charge of keeping tabs on foreign spies on U.S. soil, told TIME that in the next five years he wants to double the number of agents chasing spooks. Already, the FBI has placed counterespionage squads of at least seven agents in all 56 of its field division offices over the past year. What about the chance that damaging U.S. moles are helping Russia today? Says one U.S. senior intelligence official: "There's always evidence of another mole because there are always unexplained events. There are always unexplained losses. There are always enough dots that look strange."


" With reporting by Massimo Calabresi, Michael Duffy and Elaine Shannon/Washington

From the Feb. 07, 2005 issue of TIME magazine

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I personally am not so sure we should keep Russia real close on our buddies list. Them and China are still viable threats to our country IMO. Thoughts?
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:11 PM   #2
 
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I personally am not so sure we should keep Russia real close on our buddies list. Them and China are still viable threats to our country IMO. Thoughts?
Current estimates are that we have more former soviet spies in the United States than the cold war. Given this and the fact that russia and china are doing joint military exercises -- and our goobermint knows it, I highly question the validity of us bolstering the financial clout of countries like China. But then again, I don't own a corporation, so I can't give myself a huge raise.


Kinda brings the "draft" into question again, don't it?
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Also, it has been using liberalized immigration rules for Russians, instituted after the cold war, to install nocs.

Even a city seen as non-distinct as Milwaukee is LOADED with Russians. Oakland avenue in Shorewood (hometown of William Rehnquist) is packed to the rafters with russians. Many own "store front" operations that never seem to sell anything. I have a less than intelligent friend who married a russian bride (and if you can't find a woman in the U.S. to marry, you are one sorry fool or a total loser), she's got a PhD in Mathematics and is trying to get into goobermint work.

I seriously doubt she has bad intentions, but who the hell knows. VMI turned her down due to her "familial history".
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:52 PM   #4
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My Grandma taught in the Ukraine many years ago, mid-90's I believe. She brought a guy named Sergei back to the states with her to visit. He came out to the house and dad asked him if he wanted to see any of our guns.

He claimed ignorance to firearms, but when dad handed him weapons he cleared the chambers...

He knew what he was doing with the guns, though he said he didn't.

A year or two ago we found out he "died" of a heart attack. He was in good physical conditioning and fairly young.
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Why would Russia bother when they can go to India and get our military secrets there? Many companies, including defense contractors have offshore our jobs. Isn't offshoring jobs wonderful?
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My Grandma taught in the Ukraine many years ago, mid-90's I believe.
I keep forgetting just how young you are, mid-90s is half a lifetime for you.

I cannot imagine any Government not attempting to gather information in any way possible on the goings on in other countries. As much as we may dislike it, most countries dislike and distrust us and will do their best to keep up with what we are doing, even our so-called friends. Our congress has emasculated our own intelligence gathering capabilities over the past 40 years and we are now paying the price and will continue to pay the price as catch up is hard to play in the world of espionage and spying.
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Why does a country that can barely feed itself anymore even bother to spy on other countries ?
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They are up to no more then we are in Russia!
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Why does a country that can barely feed itself anymore even bother to spy on other countries ?

Industrial espionage.
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I highly question the validity of us bolstering the financial clout of countries like China.
You just don't understand Bush's big plan. After we build up China properly there will be 166 qaudtrillion Chinese that lust after jeans, baseball caps, and DVD players. They'll of course fail to keep up with the demand and naturally begin outsourcing jobs to the now cheap American labor markets.
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