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Old 01-31-2005, 02:22 PM   #1
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Default Remember the Human Shields?

Just heard a good question on NRA news. Where were the Human Shields during Iraq's election?
Why weren't they protecting the Iraqis ability to form a participatory gov't? The same form of gov't that allowed them to act as "Human Shields."
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Old 01-31-2005, 06:11 PM   #2
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They all silently came back to the U.S. a good while back. 20/20 had a short segment on them right before the war started. They THOUGHT they would be protecting hospitals and the like. They were suprised when Saddam placed them in his weapons labs, palaces, and military bases. I think they decided he wasn't such an innocent victim after all.
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Old 01-31-2005, 06:58 PM   #3
 
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Given the current state of stupidity in the United States, does this surprise you? I can't even get into a decent argument at the local watering hole on Saturday unless i'm talking to someone over the age of 50, everyone else has absolutely no clue as to what the hell we talk about. Hence my nickname "the politcian" at the place.

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Mon Jan 31, 7:20 AM ET

By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY

One in three U.S. high school students say the press ought to be more
restricted, and even more say the government should approve newspaper
stories before readers see them, according to a survey being released today.

The survey of 112,003 students finds that 36% believe newspapers should get
"government approval" of stories before publishing; 51% say they should be
able to publish freely; 13% have no opinion.

Asked whether the press enjoys "too much freedom," not enough or about the
right amount, 32% say "too much," and 37% say it has the right amount. Ten
percent say it has too little.

The survey of First Amendment rights was commissioned by the John S. and
James L. Knight Foundation and conducted last spring by the University of
Connecticut. It also questioned 327 principals and 7,889 teachers.

The findings aren't surprising to Jack Dvorak, director of the High School
Journalism Institute at Indiana University in Bloomington. "Even
professional journalists are often unaware of a lot of the freedoms that
might be associated with the First Amendment," he says.

The survey "confirms what a lot of people who are interested in this area
have known for a long time," he says: Kids aren't learning enough about the
First Amendment in history, civics or English classes. It also tracks
closely with recent findings of adults' attitudes.

"It's part of our Constitution, so this should be part of a formal
education," says Dvorak, who has worked with student journalists since 1968.

Although a large majority of students surveyed say musicians and others
should be allowed to express "unpopular opinions," 74% say people shouldn't
be able to burn or deface an American flag as a political statement; 75%
mistakenly believe it is illegal.

The U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) in 1989 ruled that burning or
defacing a flag is protected free speech. Congress has debated flag-burning
amendments regularly since then; none has passed both the House and Senate.

Derek Springer, a first-year student at Ivy Tech State College in Muncie,
Ind., credits his journalism adviser at Muncie Central High School with
teaching students about the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of
speech, press and religion.

Last year, Springer led a group of student journalists who exposed payments
a local basketball coach made to players for such things as attending
practices and blocking shots. The newspaper also questioned requirements
that students register their cars with the school to get parking passes.

Because they studied the First Amendment, he says, "we know that we can
publish our opinion, and that we might be scrutinized, but we know we didn't
do anything wrong."
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:13 PM   #4
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Okay you politician you.[8D]
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