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Old 01-30-2005, 07:48 PM   #1
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Default Arizona Prop 200, Mexico can stick it.

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Mexico threatens Arizona over anti-illegals measure
Official says challenge in international courts possible to block voter-passed Proposition 200

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Posted: January 28, 2005
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A Mexican government official has threatened to use international courts to block an Arizona law meant to prohibit illegal aliens from receiving public benefits and voting rights.

Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said in a radio interview Wednesday that an international strategy would be used if other attempts to reverse Proposition 200 fail, the Associated Press reported.


"We are seeking all the legal opportunities that exist, first using the legal capacities of the United States itself and ... if that does not work, bringing it to international tribunals," AP quotes Derbez as saying.

Mexican officials have repeatedly complained about Proposition 200, which went into effect Tuesday. The statewide measure denies most taxpayer benefits to illegal aliens and requires state workers to report applicants for such benefits who may not be eligible. It also requires anyone registering to vote in the state to show proof of citizenship and bring a government-issued ID to the polling place.

AP reported Derbez expressed regret that, according to polls, about 40 percent of Mexican-Americans in Arizona supported Prop. 200. The measure passed with 60 percent of the vote.

"It's sad, and it gives an idea of how we have to work to educate even our own Mexican-Americans about why it is important that these proposals are not accepted," Derbez said.

The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund has challenged Prop. 200, saying it is "an illegal, impermissible, unconstitutional state attempt to regulate immigration policy, which is a fundamental function and responsibility of our federal government. Proposition 200 is mean-spirited and un-American."

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Old 01-30-2005, 07:50 PM   #2
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that does not work, bringing it to international tribunals," AP quotes Derbez as saying.
How about gun turrets Mr. Bush? Think it's about time to get out of the UN and seal our borders?
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:10 PM   #3
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Default RE: Arizona Prop 200, Mexico can stick it.

I still think we should put up permanant shooting posts every 1000 yards along the mexican border. Have the shooters armed with 50 caliber sniper rifles and/ or 50BMG machine guns.

Same thing down there off the Southern Florida coast just inside the US waters.

Yes it would cost a bunch of money but how much are we spending on illegals right now?

I know that would deter me from swimming the river.
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Old 01-30-2005, 09:48 PM   #4
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I think Mexico should first try to improve their own country so their own people wouldn't have to come up here before trying to tell us how to run the US.
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Old 01-30-2005, 09:49 PM   #5
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Isn't there also something also going on with Idaho trying to ban a book that tells illegals how to get in the US??
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Old 01-30-2005, 10:29 PM   #6
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Default RE: Arizona Prop 200, Mexico can stick it.

I understand that the $ sent back to Mexico by Mexican immigrants in the US (illegal & legal) is one of the largest sources of income for the country, second to their petroleum sales. Why this fact isn't mentioned more often in discussions on the illegal immigrant problem is strange. It explains at least some of the reasons why the Mexican gov't isn't being as agressive in reducing the flow of illegal immigrants as the US would like.

I don't want to see anyone abused or unjustly maltreated. It boils down to getting something for free. I a few people who immigranted to the US legally. One friend, from Korea, gets really upset about the issue of non-citizens & non-taxpayers demanding tax supported services. There are lots of people going through the process to immigrate here, legally. Why reward those who are trying to circumvent the procedure and penalize those who are following the law?
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Default RE: Arizona Prop 200, Mexico can stick it.

If you or I go to Mexico on a job assignment, even for a day or two, we are required by Mexican law to have a work visa (Green Card, and yes it is Green) or face deportation, fines or worse. Why do they think our soverignity (SP) is any less important than theirs?
They want to know the hotel you will be staying in as well as where you will be working and supposedly check up on you occaisionaly to insure that you are indeed following the terms of your entry/work visa.

Perhaps it is time for our own State Department to do a bit of research on existing Mexican law in regard to the Mexican Governments responsibility to its own citizens and begin to use their court system (such as it is) to force them to provide better conditions for their people. Failing that, then those self same international tribunals the Mexicans intend to use might look in favor on court action requiring them to look after their own.

Maybe a U.N. resolution or two focused on requiring countries to take care of their poor would have some effect (yeah right) .

Mexico is not a poor country. It is mismanaged with rampant corruption at every level of government but it is not poor. Their natural resources from oil to Gold and Silver, if properly managed would go a long way toward providing jobs and security for their people. This does not even begin to address other resources such as agriculture, fishing and tourism or mining in other minerals and manufacturing plants located conveniently along their borders with the U.S. as a source of revenue. Cleaning up their government at all levels would do more than anything else to fiix their problems.
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Default RE: Arizona Prop 200, Mexico can stick it.

Coastie took the words right out of my mouth. Good post. Also, the Mexican Foreign Secretary is wrong in that Arizona is not attempting to rewrite immigration laws for the U.S. A state has the absolute right to require proof of citizenship for voter registration and any social programs. Mexico seems bent on demanding some sort of entitlement from the U.S. without paying for it. Like Coastie said, they should clean up their own backyard before worrying about the U.S. And they can take their international courts and shove it.[:@]
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This is why we pushed this thing into referendum-too many politically correct people kept pushing it out of our wonderful government. So we took it up as a referendum. At a corner in the town where I live-last summer there would be 5 illegals standing on the corner waiting for work-now there are 75 and the number seems to go up weekly. I say Mexico for Mexicans and the US for US citizens. if you want to come here and work then pay the taxes just like everybody else. When you go into the emergency room at the hospital or to the county health department-it is filled with illegals seeking free services-now I would never deny somebody who is in dire need of a life saving process those services-but when they jam the system and never pay a dime-I know who pays the freight-so we had to do something.
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:37 AM   #10
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They also come across to have their baby so it's gets American citizenship.
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