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Old 01-20-2005, 07:16 AM   #1
 
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:35 AM   #2
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Doesn't sound new at all. Federal law prohibits anyone found guilty of domestic violence from buying or possessing guns. On top of that, the states can legislate the matter further.

Oh, and I should add that law enforcement will seize any guns until (if) the suspect is found innocent. Going through so many hoops to get them returned is nothing new either.
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:39 AM   #3
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Ifferd: Looks like your buddy tangled with the wrong she-cat. I assume he has terminated that relationship permanently, right?

Domestic violence is a somewhat common problem. I think the call is that it is better to be safe than sorry and take the guns up front rather than have the domestic abuser kill the victim before the legal game can play itself out. Granted, there is a strong flavor of guilty until proven innocent, but few would object to the objective of preserving the safety of the abused person.

The problem in the situation, as I view it, is the mechanism for recovering the guns once the charges were lifted. I don't know how to advise that this be changed.

Don't get hooked up with a no-good, lieing, back stabbing woman is the best advice your friend can get. Worse things can result from failing to live by this directive than losing your guns for a couple of weeks and paying a lawyer $1000 to get them back.
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:46 AM   #4
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Don't get hooked up with a no-good, lieing, back stabbing woman is the best advice your friend can get.
I'm quite lucky as I've married my high school sweetheart and lived happily ever after. But that's not so easy for most people. It's a take a good, long while to fully understand an intimate relation, if at all. There are some loony folks out there!
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Old 01-20-2005, 09:06 AM   #6
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He was never found guilty and the charges were dropped within 2 days. He never spent any time in jail. But the guns were still confiscated and held - and could have been held up to 3 years even after the charges were proved false and dropped.

That's the new twist on the old domestic laws.

Your guns are registered and confiscated without a conviction even when charges are proved false and dropped.

(due process???????)
This doesn't seem new to me. Yes, it's wrong, but this has been going on for a while now. My cousin had his guns stolen, yet it took almost a year for the sheriff's office to allow him to pick them up once they were recovered. Liberal politicians and law enforcement hate guns, and they'll do whatever they can get away with to keep them out of the hands of citizens.
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I remember a story on the news. A Louisianna county was pulling people over and confiscating cars on drug charges. Cars were auctioned off, and the county kept the money. One woman had here car sold, and she was found not guilty -- not only that, but her case helped expose corruption and abuse of the confiscation laws -- but she never got her car back, and never received a penny for it.
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His record should be cleared and the girlfriend should be charged with filing a false statment/charges. I think it is an automatic charge, and he doenst have to file it agianst her.
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Ifferd: Let me ask directly. Did your friend drop the girl friend? Did he do anything to precipitate her action, say put an intimate videotape on the Internet or something?

AughtSix: You are lucky. Many people choose a mate poorly and a lot of trouble ensues therefrom. I have been married 16 years to my first and only wife. We were both 32 when we married. I can't imagine my wife doing something (something false) which would damage my interests, without my doing something awfully bad to merit this.
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