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Old 01-18-2005, 08:21 AM   #1
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Default 16 year old boy jailed for causing the death to a fetus

The story is; a 16 year old boy got a 16 year old girl pregnant. The girl and the boy both decided it was best to lose the baby, so they brewed up a plan to hit the girl in the stomach with a bat. The girl is not charged, because it was her choice, now why is the boy charged with assault causing the death of a fetus?

Im prolife so I say both should be held responsible, but for you prochoicers, why is this not making new. If he had taken her to get an abortion he would have no problem???? Same outcome, both were consenting??? I don't understand the double standard.
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Old 01-18-2005, 08:41 AM   #2
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Im prolife so I say both should be held responsible, but for you prochoicers, why is this not making new. If he had taken her to get an abortion he would have no problem???? Same outcome, both were consenting??? I don't understand the double standard.
As far as I know, this didn't make the national headlines, but we discussed it here recently.

There are double standards because different sides of the debate both contribute to our laws. A pro-choicer might lobby to have an abortion law passed, but at the same time a pro-lifer is working to pass a fetal rights bill. Sometimes you gain a yard, sometimes you lose one. Tug o' war....
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:11 AM   #3
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The story is; a 16 year old boy got a 16 year old girl pregnant. The girl and the boy both decided it was best to lose the baby, so they brewed up a plan to hit the girl in the stomach with a bat. The girl is not charged, because it was her choice, now why is the boy charged with assault causing the death of a fetus?

Im prolife so I say both should be held responsible, but for you prochoicers, why is this not making new. If he had taken her to get an abortion he would have no problem???? Same outcome, both were consenting??? I don't understand the double standard.
I don't understand it either. Looks like it should be all or none.

On a seperate note, I am really questioning the two's plan here. I realize they are 16, but I am still concerned with their intellectual abilities. I am not really pro-choice or pro-life (don't care), but I am pro-sterilize. I think they should be prevented from ever reproducing. This gene pool here has wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy too much chlorine.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:38 PM   #4
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I am pro-sterilize. I think they should be prevented from ever reproducing. This gene pool here has wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy too much chlorine.
Yep, seems like the dumbest always have all the kids.
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Bernie, I saw this clip on Fox last night..... It boggles my mind that both are not accountable for this action. All I can do is just shake my head in dismay sometimes
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I am pro choice and feel they both should be tried for a form of murder.

To me abortions should be done by trained doctors.

I also believe abortions should not take place after ten weeks.

A woman should know her decision when she finds out she is pregnant.
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The story is; a 16 year old boy got a 16 year old girl pregnant. The girl and the boy both decided it was best to lose the baby, so they brewed up a plan to hit the girl in the stomach with a bat. The girl is not charged, because it was her choice, now why is the boy charged with assault causing the death of a fetus?

Im prolife so I say both should be held responsible, but for you prochoicers, why is this not making new. If he had taken her to get an abortion he would have no problem???? Same outcome, both were consenting??? I don't understand the double standard.
while abortion is legal, it is still required that the procedure be performed by a licensed professional.

joe teenager with a baseball bat is not a licensed professional.
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Old 01-19-2005, 10:26 AM   #9
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The story is; a 16 year old boy got a 16 year old girl pregnant. The girl and the boy both decided it was best to lose the baby, so they brewed up a plan to hit the girl in the stomach with a bat. The girl is not charged, because it was her choice, now why is the boy charged with assault causing the death of a fetus?

Im prolife so I say both should be held responsible, but for you prochoicers, why is this not making new. If he had taken her to get an abortion he would have no problem???? Same outcome, both were consenting??? I don't understand the double standard.
while abortion is legal, it is still required that the procedure be performed by a licensed professional.

joe teenager with a baseball bat is not a licensed professional.
Thats one way to look at it, but is the fetus just as dead as if it was scraped out by a doctor????? Why should the boy be charged with the death of a fetus??? At best it should be simple assault. The Pro choice rational eludes me.
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The story is; a 16 year old boy got a 16 year old girl pregnant. The girl and the boy both decided it was best to lose the baby, so they brewed up a plan to hit the girl in the stomach with a bat. The girl is not charged, because it was her choice, now why is the boy charged with assault causing the death of a fetus?

Im prolife so I say both should be held responsible, but for you prochoicers, why is this not making new. If he had taken her to get an abortion he would have no problem???? Same outcome, both were consenting??? I don't understand the double standard.
while abortion is legal, it is still required that the procedure be performed by a licensed professional.

joe teenager with a baseball bat is not a licensed professional.
Thats one way to look at it, but is the fetus just as dead as if it was scraped out by a doctor????? Why should the boy be charged with the death of a fetus??? At best it should be simple assault. The Pro choice rational eludes me.
it may not make sense to you, but that's the way the law looks at it.

i don't pretend to have all the answers, i can only speak for myself.

my reasons for being pro-choice are simple.
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