How many will be killed?

[silentassassin]

Enlight of the recent events, how many Hmong hunters will be killed this year. If these people are as bad about tresspassing as some have said they are, and I have no reason to doubt it, then you have to admit you would be a little quicker on the draw than normal when running one of them off. I will be perfectly honest, it wouldn't be be wise for one of these people to make any type of threatening action towards me if I caught them tresspassing because I would be shooting first and asking questions later. I personally would rather be tried by twelve than carried by six. This understandably has to have people's nerves on end so do you will think there will be any related deaths this upcoming season.

[NJ_Bowhntr]

Hopefully none, there has been enough loss of human life in the woods already. The killing should end with this criminal frying in the chair.

[onebullet]

only the ones not paying attention to warnings---

the ones who dont believe that our country is doing a backslide into extinction


below is an educational reality kinda long but packed with REALITY
as stated even the roman empire fell

warning all who cant handle the truth dont read








>How to Destroy America!!

>

>We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that

>context his thoughts are particularly poignant.

>

>Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in

>Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds

>and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis

>talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration

>- both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of

>California. He said it would march across the country until it

>destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

>

>Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm

>stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The

>audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the

>destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America

>is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America.

>It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the

>ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations

>rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great

>nations commit suicide.'"

>

>"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "Turn America into a bilingual or

>multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can

>survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing

>languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be

>bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

>

>"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories

>of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are

>histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malyasia,

>Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press

>for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided.

>Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with

>Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

>

>Lamm went on: "Invent 'multi-culturalism' and encourage immigrants to

>maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all

>cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would

>make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates

>are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other

>explanation is out of bounds.

>

>"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec'

>without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than

>unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The

>apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment

>might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the

>dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be

>an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us

>together.'" Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their

>own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with

>the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various

>cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences

>rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

>

>"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least

>educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated,

>undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this

>second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

>

>"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations

>and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in

>ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I

>would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault

>of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all

>minority failure on the majority population."

>

>"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship

>and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity.

>I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people

>worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they

>are not killing each other."

>

>"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical

>precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation

>together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they

>belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and

>literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in

>the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet

>all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local

>patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political

>divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that

>historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of

>the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

>

>"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make

>it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I

>would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that

>stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or

>'zenophobe' halt discussion and debate." "Having made America a

>bilingual/ bicultural country, having established multi-culturism,

>having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I

>would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would

>develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America ,

>it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant

>sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

>

>In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow.

>Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor

>Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It

>exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be

>destroyed, don't read that book."

>

>There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous

>cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that

>room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically,

>quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every

>discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the

>foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness.

>Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing

>as we celebrate 'diversity.'

>

>American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create

>a Third World in America - take note of California and other states -

>to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent

>of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are

>engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is

>slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

>

>Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the

>conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is

>deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration

>monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California

>wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American

>Dream.




now read " vang a hero" and comments made about him by the hmong people

its on my doorstep people soon it will be yours...

and thank you for educating yourself as to what is really happening
GOD be with us -vietnam has landed on our shores and doorsteps

[burniegoeasily]

onebullet
Your posts make lots of sense. Wonder if the warnings will be heeded?

[PapaD]

an educational reality kinda long but packed with REALITY
as stated even the

honestly, im not attacking anyone, but y has this deerhunting forum gotten all about hmong killers. i was actually hunting near where this happened and was out hunting when it did happen. there are more accidental killings by like 40x then there are murders in the woods. how about we concentrate on those rather then concentrating on ethnicities and stereotpyes. if you run into someone who isnt supposed to be on your property, just call the cops, no shooting required.

lets just get out there and hunt rather then worry about this stuff.

[PapaD]

ORIGINAL: NJ_Bowhntr

Hopefully none, there has been enough loss of human life in the woods already. The killing should end with this criminal frying in the chair.

maybe im not up to date on this case, but i dont think he can be put todeath can he? wisconsin doesnt have the death penalty and i dont believe national crimes have death penalties either. maybe im wrong

[fastbuckj]

Kinda sad, No REAL sad, that it is becomming that dangerous to EVEN go hunting. MY prayers to ALL the families involved in that tragic situation.
However, for that last 15 yrs. I have ALWAYS carried a side arm with me, when/where ever I hunt. God forbid I ever have to shoot another human being. BBBUUUTTTT, I have a very high level of survival for myself/friends & definitly my family. I pity that SOB that even points a gun @ me in a threating manner!!! enough said>>>>>>>>>>

[TimberCreek]

silentassassin, I agree with you. as long as I have properly posted my land, if someone comes on my property they know they are trespassing (breaking the law) and either intend to do me or my family bodily harm or are there to steal or damage my property. I have only owned my land two years now and have run into punk trespassers 5 times. I have been nice so far, but no more! Either buy your own land, use core land or learn to dodge bullets. I will still be nice and give a warning shot.

[bnhcomputing]

TimberCreek:

That may very well have been the cause of this to begin with.

I have property in WI. Any time I see any hunter I don"™t recognize, I get the binocs on him ASAP. If he doesn"™t belong there, I approach with safe muzzle control, and the safety on, but I hold my rifle in such a way, that if the individual starts demonstrating poor muzzle control, I can react quickly. I will take down as much information as possible, starting with a good description of the individual and a back tag number if possible. I carry pencil, paper, and one of those throw away cameras in my daypack so I can take pictures if I harvest an animal. I will use it to take pictures of the trespasser or what ever other evidence there is.

Having said that, it is up to the police to enforce the law. If I determine he is a trespasser, I will call 911.

911: What is your emergency?

Me: My name is XXXXXX; my address is XXXXX. I have a trespasser, with a weapon on my property. Please send the police immediately.

At this point, they will either dispatch an officer right away, or they will tell me that this isn"™t a REAL emergency.

If they try to tell me this isn"™t a lights and sirens emergency"¦

Me: Remember the 2004 incident? This is being recorded, right? Are you refusing to send an officer to apprehend an armed criminal?

I am not a lawyer, but at this point, I think I would have covered my self pretty well. I asked law enforcement for help. If they refuse, it"™s on tape and I will apprehend the criminal dead or alive. If the officers do come, then they can deal with it.

I would hope WI law enforcement would see the need to have extra officers during the hunting season.

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