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Old 12-16-2004, 07:31 AM   #1
 
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Did I spell his name correctly?

The manufacturer of the Armor said that it was not happening as fast as possible.
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:44 AM   #2
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I'm glad you started this thread because I was thinking of starting one like it.

Rumsfeld was essentially given a pass by logs and few other board members here. Clearly he did not deserve it. In about a weeks time, something like 4 BILLION dollars was suddenly available and earmarked for armor.

Apparently some Americans have themselves so wrapped up with patriotism that its restricting their brains. How many of the recent deaths of our service men and women in Iraq could have been prevented by providing armor as suggested in a conflict that is 18 months along?

Call a spade a spade.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:13 AM   #3
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But I also know that he can't just snap his fingers and secure more equipment for our forces.
Apparently he can. In fairness though, you did clearly express your disappointment with Rumsfeld.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:28 AM   #4
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Well, I meant that he can't get everyone over there everything they need right this moment. I was a but vague in my phrasing.

In fairness though, I really did doubt that he could get this new order of armor going so quickly.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:02 PM   #5
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This is an important topic. If Rumsfeld or anybody else responsible is NOT getting armor to iraq as quick as possible, the situation should be fixed first and then hold Rummy, et al accountable.
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I heard on Hannity last night that one year ago, about 230 humvees had armor. Now between 15,000 and 18,000 have armor. I beleive it is deplorable to send ANY vehicle over there unarmored. But much HAS been done. Defense spending was cut considerably during the 90's, and this type of warfare was not anticipated, so didn't get its share of the scarce dollars. At least things need to be put in perspective. Many media outlets want you to think no humvee has any armor over there, and it is all Rumsfeld's fault.
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Thanks for posting some extremely useful facts Doug. As usual, you've put things in perspective. Kudos.
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blame kerry , kennedy , clintoon for cutting all that defense spending
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How many of the recent deaths of our service men and women in Iraq could have been prevented by providing armor as suggested in a conflict that is 18 months along?

It's called the law of diminishing returns. Perhaps every soldier should have his very own 17 Billion dollar tank that is nuke proof.
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Give me a break. Rumsfeld has had the largest military budget yet handed to him by Bush. What has he done with it???? Nothing
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