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Old 12-11-2004, 07:22 PM   #1
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Default Blue States SMARTER than Red States!

The top 7, smartest states in the nation are all BLUE Democratic states.

The bottom 7, the dumbest states in the nation are all RED Republican states.

.... and the trend continues.

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Old 12-11-2004, 07:24 PM   #2
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Maybe but the dumb red states can beat up the smart blue states.
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:27 PM   #3
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Some of the 21 factors in ranking the states include ...

4. Percent of Population Graduated from High School.

7. Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading.

9. Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing.

15. High School Drop Out Rate.
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Having lived in Northern Illinois for my first 46 years I've known a lot of smart people over those years, but,,,,, more intelligent????????

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Old 12-11-2004, 08:12 PM   #5
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If they're so smart, why couldn't they figure out a way to get their guy to win?
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To me this is clear evidence of the liberal brainwashing in education. The more education one is exposed to, the more liberal they are. We conservative have been saying that for years, this is just proof positive.
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:13 PM   #7
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but the smartest democrats in those states don't have sense enough to pour piss out of a boot . prime example putting kerry AKA boltneck up for president
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Some of the 21 factors in ranking the states include ...

4. Percent of Population Graduated from High School.

7. Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading.

9. Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing.

15. High School Drop Out Rate.
I see you are from SE Wisconsin- probably from Milwaukee county.

Please compare your list of statistics of the very Blue Milwaukee county against the Redder than Red Washington, Waukesha, and Ozaukee counties and then tell me how dumb Red areas are. BTW if it weren't for the welfare areas of Milwaukee county and Nortwestern wisconsin, this state would be solidly in the RED.

Anyhow let me save you the trouble, for Milwaukee county:

4. about 45%
7. about 20%
9. about 20%
15. 40-50+%
Washington, Ozaukee, and wakesha counties:
4. about 99%
7. About 85%- nearly 100% of the white students
8. Same as 7.
15. <1%

You can have your socialist stinkhole utopia that hasn't even progressed to the point of figuring out sewer systems yet.
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:17 AM   #9
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ORIGINAL: 1sagittarius

The top 7, smartest states in the nation are all BLUE Democratic states.

The bottom 7, the dumbest states in the nation are all RED Republican states.

.... and the trend continues.

2004-2005 Smartest State Award

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Have you read the "factors" used in making this determination? Many of these factors would appear to be questionable at best and some are assinine. Many people seem content to regurgitate this next to useless type of trivia and illogical studies which only serve to prove that their authors are either that dumb, that disingenuous or both. And then the trend does continue....

1. Public Elementary and Secondary School Revenue per $1,000 Personal Income (Table 54) +
This may tell you which states have higher taxes but doesn't indicate intelligence unless you're arguing that taxing yourself more = higher intelligence.

2. Per Pupil Public Elementary and Secondary School Current Expenditures (Table 108) +
This tells you which state spends more but still doesn't quantify which state has a higher intelligence.

3. Percent of Public Elementary and Secondary School Current Expenditures used for Instruction (Table 132) +
This might indicate which school administrators are more efficient but still doesn't quantify a state's intelligence.

4. Percent of Population Graduated from High School (Table 168) +
while it's admirable to have all or almost all residents graduate from high school, this figure doesn't calculate how many people who graduate are still illiterate or were basically just pushed through the system without being truly educated. A better test would be what percentage of HS grads are reading, writing and conmprehending at a 12th grade level or higher.

5. Public High School Graduation Rate (Table 177) +
See # 4.

6. Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading (Table 196) +
This is interesting but what about the other grades. Also, how many people are being held back and thus not learning at a timely rate?

7. Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading (Table 204) +
Same as # 6.

8. Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing (Table 212) +
See # 6.

9. Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing (Table 220) +
See # 6.

10. Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Mathematics (Table 228) +
See # 6.

11. Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Mathematics (Table 236) +
See # 6.

12. Percent of 4th Graders Whose Parents Have Strict Rules about Getting Homework Done (Table 285) +
See # 6.

13. Average Teacher Salary as a Percent of Average Annual Pay of All Workers (Table 347) +
How does this make a state smarter or dumber?

14. Percent of School-Age Population in Public Schools (Table 412) +
What about private schools and home schooling? Do more of these students make a state smarter? Statistically, they do score higher.

15. High School Drop Out Rate (Table 183) -
What about the other grades? Does this only apply to public high schools? Or to private, parochial and home schooled students as well?

16. Percent of Public School Teachers Who Reported Being Physically Attacked in the Past 12 Months (Table 264) -
Having a high crime rate doesn't mean you're smarter or dumber. Not doing anything about a high crime rate, however, does indicate a lower intelligence level or a lack of scones.

17. Special Education Pupil-Teacher Ratio (Table 325) -
Some states have more money to spend and other states have less. I'd think it's more important and a better criteria for judging to examine how you use your money and resources and what results you obtain than in how much money you spend or by its' derivative, what the pupil-teacher ratio is.

18. Percent of Public Elementary and Secondary School Staff Who are School District Administrators (Table 359) -
Sounds like an administrator efficiency thing and nothing to do with how smart a state is or is not.

19. Estimated Pupil-Teacher Ratio in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools (Table 370) -
See # 17 & 18.

20. Average Class Size in Public Elementary Schools (Table 390) -
See # 18 & 19.

21. Average Class Size in Public Secondary Schools (Table 391) -
See # 18 & 19.
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Having a high crime rate doesn't mean you're smarter or dumber. Not doing anything about a high crime rate, however, does indicate a lower intelligence level or a lack of scones.
Scones? biskets?
Very good points Cal.


I think this state spends a bit on Schools budgets.

The taxes have still more then dbled in 15 yrs on property etc & the schools system is permently fundd thew a percent of mineral royalty taxes & they have a large perment fund besides there yrly millions from the coal/ gas/ oil, trona etc.
Well funded.
And im a ny blue state drop out , former delequent from the wrong side of the tracks/ urban rust pool
of decay.. with a lotto system? plus many taxes

But i moved
Luckly i knew what way was north& west.
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