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Old 12-02-2004, 06:46 PM   #1
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Default The lunatic is in the hall...another insanity defense?

From Fox News, so you just know its true, I mean, hey, its not CNN, right?

Police Release Tapes in Teacher Sex Case Thursday, December 02, 2004

"¢TAMPA, Fla. "” Police released audio tapes Thursday of phone calls between a teacher and a 14-year-old student she is accused of raping.

In the calls, Debra LaFave (search) speaks with the boy about the affair they were allegedly having and the student expresses concerns that the middle school teacher might be pregnant. Police were also releasing DNA evidence as part of the public record of the case.'

LaFave, speaking in a childish voice, asks the boy, "Are you OK?" The victim says, "I'm a little worried." Most of the victim's portion of the tape is inaudible, but a discussion about condom use follows.

Toward the end, LaFave tells the student, "I don't want you lying to your mom" and then asks him to make a "pinky promise." LaFave repeats her request and the boy agrees and after being asked, says, "Pinky promise."

Mike Sinacor, the prosecutor in the case, told FOX News that the calls "” said to be made by the boy at the request of authorities probing the allegations "” could be useful in determining LaFave's state of mind. LaFave is expected to use the insanity defense when the case goes to trial in April.

Her attorney said that two doctors have evaluated the 24-year-old over the past several months and have also examined medical records.

Attorney John Fitzgibbons said she had some "profound emotional issues that are not her fault."

LaFave was arrested in June on charges of committing lewd or lascivious battery (search) on a person younger than 16. She faces similar charges in Marion County.

LaFave has been suspended from her teaching job and her husband filed for divorce in August.

FOX News' Orlando Salinas and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:40 PM   #2
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Insanity, or sin?


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Attorney John Fitzgibbons said she had some "profound emotional issues that are not her fault."

You think we as a nation have become lazy, unaccountable people? We have overweight heart-diseased people running around screaming "McDonalds made me fat and unhealthy!!!!". We have smokers getting lung cancer and blaming the tobacco companies, frivolous law suits by the thousands everyday, and teachers screwing their students without fault......
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Old 12-02-2004, 09:13 PM   #3
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I will be curous to see how this part plays out.
Attorney John Fitzgibbons said she had some "profound emotional issues that are not her fault."

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Old 12-03-2004, 07:17 AM   #4
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I'm starting to wonder if we don't have a teacher problem on the scale of the priest problem.[8D]
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In other cultures, in other times, it would be neither.
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Old 12-03-2004, 07:19 AM   #6
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Did you hear the tape where this adult is asking a 14 yr old to"pinky swear"? Kinda interseting she even talks like a child.
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Me too and I'm not joking.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:13 AM   #8
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First LeTourneau , now LaFave ...
Could this all be a conspiracy on the part of the French ?

Pinky swear ?
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to be honest, when i was 14 years old, if a hot teacher had wanted to sleep with me, i would have done it in a heartbeat.

and i would have kept my damn mouth shut so that well wouldn't have run dry.
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to be honest, when i was 14 years old, if a hot teacher had wanted to sleep with me, i would have done it in a heartbeat.

and i would have kept my damn mouth shut so that well wouldn't have run dry.
David that was probably one of the most honest post on this board I have seen in a long time, what she did was wrong and may have future effects on this young man when he gets older though.

vc you are right when you say that age differences of this kind were acceptable and almost the norm even here in the US, but one thing to keep in mind is people grew up a lot quicker back then also.
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