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Old 12-01-2004, 09:15 AM   #1
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,140117,00.html

Is there no "respect for the animal" in 1/4 of these "kills?"
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:36 AM   #2
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Hmmmm , PETA ???? What else have they to do ?
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:41 AM   #3
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But Rabbi Chaim Kohn, the plant's supervising rabbi, told The New York Times in Wednesday's editions that the tapes were "testimony that this is being done right." In kosher slaughter, the animals' throats are sliced with a razor-sharp blade, intended to cause instant and painless death. Jewish law forbids stunning them first.
It would be an infringement on the Jews First Amendment right to stop this. Same thing with sacraificing chickens in Santiera and voodo.
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:47 AM   #4
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Funny, Two days ago I was just talking to a local high school counselor/farmer who takes his beef cows to this very plant. He said that every cow is first cut, then blessed, then each one is graded on it's quality of meat, fat marbling, ect. If it is approved to be Kosher the farmer gets a better price per lb. If it is not approved Kosher then the regular price is given and the meat is packaged for non-jews. I guess it is quite a process and does take longer than the normal way of using a bolt gun. If anyone is to blame its the Jews. just kidding.
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Peta is not right about anything. Cruelty sucks, but look at nature. Animals do not see things the way we do. They have no awareness of death, or even life for that matter. Predetory animals will hunt down, and start to eat it's prey before it is dead. Having your guts ripped out and eaten while your lying there in shock might prove to be a tad bit uncomfortable. I think peta should protest against wolves, coyotes, lions, bears, tigers, crocs and gators etc. Wait, that's a conflict of interest. You can't judge animals, based on their behavior with their predetory habits. that's how they were made. That's just what they do. Hold on, that sounds a little like people. Lifes great when your on top of the food chain, isn't it?
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:56 AM   #6
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It would be an infringement on the Jews First Amendment right to stop this. Same thing with sacraificing chickens in Santiera and voodo.
Would that be along the same idea as depriving/infringment on there believes of those muslims on there missions of a holey war - jihad on the ifadels thus preventing victims & there personal holey works to get to heaven?
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:28 AM   #7
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All I have say is PETA sure is pissing off the Jewish community. Take a look at PETA's campaign a few years ago - "The Animal Holocaust" - comparing the raising and slaughtering of animals to the Holocaust, complete with extensive historical pics. These people are twisted.

Ever wonder where "bleeding like a stuck pig" comes from? I've seen pigs get butchered in this manner. They bleed like a wide open fire hose and die very quickly.
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:55 AM   #8
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I'd be the first to say that PETA is a bunch of whacked out nutjobs. But we DO have an obligation to make slaughtering animals as quickly and ethically as possible.

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They have no awareness of death, or even life for that matter.
pharaoh2, you are absolutely correct - animals have no concept of death. They also don't have a concept of morality or ethics or matters of conscience. That's one of the primary differences between humans and the rest of the animal world. But because we do have the capacity to think in those terms, we operate on a completely different plane.

He*l, we raise cattle for the specific purpose of killing them to eat and wear. (BTW, I prefer a juicy ribeye). Then we use every scrap of the animal. The least we can do is kill it quickly.
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Old 12-01-2004, 03:51 PM   #9
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I would not like to see any animal suffer that way, so I would have to agree that is a cruel death those cows have to endure to be concidered kosher.I would like to know what the reasoning behind this tradition is.How does that effect the meat?
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:03 PM   #10
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Found this on why it's done.

Orthodox Jewish and Moslem dietary laws forbid consumption of meat from animals which are not "healthy and moving" when killed. Religious orthodoxy today interprets this to mean that kosher meat must come from animals who have not been stunned before being killed. They must be fully conscious when it's done. Further, in order to qualify for the kosher stamp of approval, the animal must have its throat slit in a particular way.
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