they have banned fox hunting in england & wales i was wondering what u lot think of that? i know most of u probarly dont give a **** and probly dont like us but i would be grateful for answers
Well you come here with an established "additude" that we do not like you which is an assumption and a bad way to start.
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i know most of u probarly dont give a **** and probly dont like us but i would be grateful for answers
I found it interesting that you folks let this happen to you. I don't know how your system works to change the action that has already occurred but I hope you are exploring all avenues of appeal.
I believe for the greater part you have given up most if not all your guns to the liberals and now you give them your balls along with the right to run down and tear apart Fox with hounds and horses.
Much like this country, the citizens get what they deserve. If you sit back and let someone take away you heritage, your traditions and your rights, I guess you deserve it.
Now tell me what you have done about this that makes me wrong.
Now are you an Englishmen or a Frog? It is hard to determine from the name and conflicting address.
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As Tony Randall specifically pojnted out to Oscar on the Odd Couple, when you "ASSUME" something, you make an "ARSE" out of "U" and "ME." Nobody here likes to see hunting banned without a good cause, such as truly non-sustainable #'s of animals. From what I've read of your ban in England, it appears to be merely an anti-hunting ban and has no grounding in animal biology or population lebvels whatsoever. I dislike such knee-jerk reaction type of laws which punish law abidding hunters, punish animals with the forseeable result of overcrowding and predictable starvation and are simply not well thought out to begin with. I hope the hunters in Britain are able to overturn this travesty of a law. You guys need to get united over there. It sounds like it's high time for England to establish their own NRA and a few chapters of the Safari Club as well. Good Luck in your efforts.
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I think it sucks. Anytime you have a bunch of liberals making laws such as this it stinks, You all need to get a grip on things like this or you are just going to see what rights you have left erode, Truthfully I feel sorry for ya, I hope you all can get things turned around.
I mean, how long has fox hunting been a heritage of England, Its a shame that things have come to this for you all. Looks like the anti's have pretty well total control.
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As far as the banning of hunting, the individual firearms ownership rights you've lost - I think it's horrible & a by-product of the socialist society in England. You guys in England & Europe only get one side of the argument, your media is terribly slanted to the left & there is no real alternative for you. That is sad. The US & England have fought against tyrrany & terrorism throughout the 20th century & are fighting it now. It is sad that you guys are now bearing the burden of a skyrocketing crime rate now that the law-abiding have been stripped of self-defense & are punished for defending themselves against violent criminals. I hope that a groundswell occurs & rights the wrongs these leftist statists have done to you.
they have banned fox hunting in england & wales i was wondering what u lot think of that? i know most of u probarly dont give a **** and probly dont like us but i would be grateful for answers
Cheers
Frenchy
Did this move really surprise anybody? With the history of gun (people) control in most european countries, England and Wales in particular over the past 50 years, why does it come as a surprise that the government would move to establish other forms of control on people?
I only wonder which of your civil rights might be next on the block. A move for a national identity card is already afoot (your papers please?) How about controls on how often you may travel beyond your own village/city for anything other than work or other restrictions, all for the public good of course. This, from the nation and people that gave us the Magna Charta one of the premier documents in history outlining human rights and gained only with the blood of many over many years of battle.
I know the people of Great Britain are made of better stuff than that, yet recently they act more like a flock of sheep being raised for slaughter, as long as they get enough to feed themselves and are allowed to amuse themselves in whatever manner they choose, then everything is rosy. Not surprisingly, we have a similar situation here in the U.S. at least half of the people have discovered that the government dole in one form or another is preferable to actually working for a living and they are more than willing to give up a few basic freedoms to insure the party that offers the most handouts will stay in power, most regretably, when they give up their rights, it also erodes my rights. We have put a minor glitch in their system here lately, but I fear it will be only temporary.
So what are you folks going to do about it? Wring your hands in frustration? Send a strongly worded note to your representative in parliment? Cry?
Perhaps it is time to bring back the time honored tradition of poaching where the thrill of the hunt was spiced with the very real danger of being caught by the game keeper and his shotgun, where human life was truly placed below that of the animal and the rights of the priveleged were upheld far beyond those of the individual. It seems you are only a short way from that today.
where human life was truly placed below that of the animal and the rights of the priveleged were upheld far beyond those of the individual. It seems you are only a short way from that today.
Did that ever go away? As you say these things shouldnt come as a suprize nothing new. They gave away(let be taken there gun rights etc.
I see them fighting at/ for football/soccer games but not there rights& freedoms.Beat each other senseless over nothing - thats what those in power like to see.
But it is also like you said( think it was you anyways) the example of the lobster & just turning up the heat ever so slowly - and most will not notice at all there being cooked alive.
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where human life was truly placed below that of the animal and the rights of the priveleged were upheld far beyond those of the individual. It seems you are only a short way from that today.
Did that ever go away? As you say these things shouldnt come as a suprize nothing new. They gave away(let be taken there gun rights etc.
I see them fighting at/ for football/soccer games but not there rights& freedoms.Beat each other senseless over nothing - thats what those in power like to see.
But it is also like you said( think it was you anyways) the example of the lobster & just turning up the heat ever so slowly - and most will not notice at all there being cooked alive.
You are correct, and regrettably, we aren't far behind. The fire is being turned up and we hardly notice, a small privelege here, a small "right" there, and pretty soon freedoms we have taken for granted, are gone.
Circuses and bread, a well known formula for controlling the masses throughout the centuries works as well today as it did in Roman times. There was far more publicity given to the brawl last week at the NBA game than was given to the young Marine that gave his life to save his friends. Nobody seems to care that they cannot take a quiet walk on a moonlight beach with their wife, children or girlfriend if that beach happens to be part of a state/national park and the hour is after whatever is posted on the sign at the entrance.
I have a concealed carry license here in Georgia that allows me to carry a concealed weapon in most public places, yet I cannot carry it in a National Forest or on a Wildlife management area, go figure. It is so much easier to accept the incongruities of public policy than to fight them that we are doomed, to at some future time, fight again the battles of our ancestors and regain the freedoms so easily given up. Our cousins in England are closer to this than we are, it should be interesting.
they have banned fox hunting in england & wales i was wondering what u lot think of that? i know most of u probarly dont give a **** and probly dont like us but i would be grateful for answers Cheers Frenchy
Frenchy I too think it sucks! I belonged to the Limestone Creek Hunt in Central NY, and we had to use scented drags to lay a trail, and were not supposed to permit the hounds to trail real foxes (or deer, etc!!) What does the Prince of Wales do now, when he can't even hunt in his own principality?? You are right to think that a lot of Americans might not care much. But it is also true that a lot of Americans don't even know what kind of hunting you are talking about, either! Any time the crazies anywher ban any kind of hunting, it adversely affects us all!
The animal rights crazies around here also believe that it is cruel to ride a horse! They have never met my horse. He gets quite mad if you DON"T ride him every day!
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hey oh my god some people are idiots how can it be cruel...muppets. i'm englishwoman and called french cos my surname is French! i dont know how u americans think of us i love amercians but wiv all with war goin on i dont know how u feel. how it came to a ban is theres a war between country folk and the townies u should log on to www.thisisoxfordshire.com and giv the city idiots some stick that be great lol!
banning hunting??
