Judged by 12 or Carried by 6?

[Brian LMCO]

If you were fired/shot at.....would you wait and give the chance to be buried and carried by 6 men or would you be judged by 12?

You shoot at me intentionally...warning shot or not...there will be return fire. I take my day in court before my day in a morgue.

[Brian LMCO]

I posted this under another story...but I want to put it here to here your replies to go along with the first question.

Don't know what the truth or what isn't. But if I was of a different race in an area where racial tensions are high I don't know what I would have done. There is alot of public hunting land surrounding this property from what I've found and there were no posted signs indicating where the public land stopped and private land started.
If someone was to fire a "warning" shot at you and yell racial slurs before that would you turn around and wave goodbye...or would you shoot first? If he was walking away how would he know the shot was fired at the ground and not a bad shot fired at him? At what point do you shoot back???And at what point do you stop to ask if anyone else has a gun?????At what point do you think...okay they are running away so I can walk away now?????At what point do you think...okay they are spreading out and will kill me? I don't know what I would have done but waving goodbye wouldn't have been an option. You don't know who's story is true. Due to the nature of the crime and the racial motivations in this country most will think he did it cause he was nuts....but who knows.

What would you have done if you were shot at? Be judged by 12 men or carried and buried by 6? I'd like to hear your answer?

[driftrider]

If you are not presenting an immanent threat of serious bodily harm or death to the other guy (thus not justifing his use of deadly force against you), and he shoots at you (thereby becoming an immenent threat of serious bodily harm or death to you), then you are legally authorized to use deadly force to defend yourself. Most states say that if you have a reasonable opportunity to flee without increasing your risk, then you must at least try to flee. But if someone is shooting at you with a rifle at a reasonable range, runing away or hiding may not be a completely safe alternative and responding with deadly force may be the only reasonable option to neutralize the threat.

Mike

[mr-pirk]

Brian if the fellow shooting at you is in a group that appears the rest of the group is un-armed...do you shoot them too?

Thanks
Mr-Pirk

[Tazman]

Brian I understand where you are coming from, if what he said was true and they fired at him first then I can see him shooting back, but I personally would have stopped shooting and started hoofing it after I took the one that shot at me out. I would not have continued to shoot and kill every person in sight once they were no longer shooting at me!

He said they fired at him ONE time, he killed 6 people and wounded 2 others who I am sure he would have killed also if he had not run out of ammo! The man may have started off defending himself, but once he took it beyond self defense he became a murderer!

[ButchA]

ORIGINAL: driftrider
If you are not presenting an immanent threat of serious bodily harm or death to the other guy (thus not justifing his use of deadly force against you), and he shoots at you (thereby becoming an immenent threat of serious bodily harm or death to you), then you are legally authorized to use deadly force to defend yourself.
Mike

DING DING DING!!!! Driftrider nailed it perfectly, right here....

I carry my Taurus .38sp snubby with me when bowhunting (yes, I have a CWP in Virginia). If some crazed lunatic came up to me in my tree stand on public land, hollering at me and then points a smokepole or shotgun or whatever at me, and fires a shot, I'm gonna whip out the .38sp snubby to defend myself. See, I can't run anywhere... I'm in a tree stand, remember? I'm treed like a raccoon and can't do anything about it. I have to defend myself given this type of scenario. Now, if I was on the ground, I'd back up and haul a$$ outta there and probably hide behind the biggest tree I could find, while I reach for the .38sp snubby.

Butch A.

[kevin1]

I'll take a chance on the 12 if I'm fired at ,
otherwise I'd just move on unless I'm at my own property .

[Aught Six]

You shoot at me intentionally...warning shot or not...there will be return fire. I take my day in court before my day in a morgue.

Amen. Couldn't have said it any more clearly.

[Mike from Texas]

I'll take 12 over 6 any day.

[DougMD]

It is hard for me to believe that as he was leaving and they took his license number, one in the group would ALSO fire at him. We KNOW he went psycho turning his vest around to camo and waiting for others to arrive so he could shoot them, approaching one unarmed man, saying "You're not dead yet?" and shooting him, and shooting several in the back as they were running away. We also now know he's had trouble in the past. I'll be the first to admit I don't know what happened, but his story sounds very fishy to me.