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Old 11-03-2004, 10:01 PM   #1
 
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Default Time to come togather? I don't think so.

Why is it that when the Democrats are in power they could care less about being non-partison. As soon as they are out of power, they are all yelping about the need to work togather. I'm of the school that while they are down, we should step on their throats. I think it's time the senate republicans call togather some of the democrat leaders and remind them who has the power and who doesn't. We have the possibilty of three or four Suprerme Court Justices leaving the bench, if I were a senator, I would be letting the demo's know that their life in congress is gonna get real miserable if these Bush nominees don't push through. Put the steel toe on the jugular.
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:07 PM   #2
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

While I can see your point and in some ways I tend to agree, I also fel that now more than ever we really need cooperation on both sides of the aisle. There is a divide among the population right now, caused in great part by the Kerry campaign. It needs to be fixed and that can't be done by force. Remember studying the Cival War in school and the turmoil that resulted from trying to strongarm the south after the war? Same logic applies here.
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:55 AM   #3
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

Well said frizzellr, now there is opportunity with Daschle gone for a middle of the road to be found in the Senate, hopefully whoever takes Daschles place as minority leader will be willing to meet the Republicans in the middle of the road and not continue to fight anything with a Republican name on it tooth and nail. This will have to be a you stratch my back and I will stratch your also or we will be right back to virtually nothing really coming out of the senate.
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:45 AM   #4
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Remember studying the Cival War in school and the turmoil that resulted from trying to strongarm the south after the war? Same logic applies here.
Yes that is true.
But i also rememeber before the war& the goverment strongarming them& the reasons for the war to begin with.
Also i rememeber under George sr, the rep senate thinking they had to comprmise with the demos on a assult weapons importation/ban& other stupid moves(gun laws)- that made them look more like democats then reps.Also i do remember all who wanted bush sr out then- including reps& a change& they got it in the form of clintoon.

I dont think its there job Reps/ to act more like democraps or to apease them in anyway, by giving up our rights or giving in or meeting them in the middle so they look more like the democraps either.

I think if ppl wanted democraps repesenting them they would vote for them- as some did to get bush sr out of office[&:]
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:50 AM   #5
 
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

I don't agree that this is the time to "step on their throats" Yet it is not time to compromise ones core beliefs in the effort to get along. Iam not sure if that is what was meant here.

It is time to move ahead with sound ideas that benefit all the people, not some temporary fix to make the losing party feel good. We see their way and we turn away, we stiffen our stances in disgust at their ideals. There is no compromise with abortion, taking away only some of our guns, our hunting rights, handing the power of the people to a gobal test and taxing us to death to support their socialist ideas.

Just over half the voters supported Bush and his values or ideas. The other 49% either hated his guts, thought he was stupid or thought kerry and his team were the answer. Reaching across the isle to meet them half way is a step backwards.
Moving forward, affording them the opportunity to join the majority and reform their ways is what is needed to heal the divide. We are not just diivded as a nation we are polarized. This is the time to contiune, advance in the correct directs not to be pulled or pushed by leftist powers.

Bush has a tuff job ahead of him. He has to win the war agianst terrorism every where he finds it and move forward. He has to communicate his ideas and objectives clearly, remain resolve in the battle whether we as a nation go it alone or with our current allies.
By doing this he unites those willing to come together, not by reach across the isle to be pulled down in the filth and muck.

Im for moving forward. Let those who want a hug one another or some other feel good jesture stand there have a happening. Thats the mind set of the 60's, this is 2004.
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:21 AM   #6
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

Logs I certainly meant in no way that we should compimise our beliefs, what I am talking about is when intoducing new legislation we not take it to the conservative max, but instead work with the Dems to see how far we can go to the right without a gridlock like Daschle has made.

The Democrats know that the country will not tolerate extreme left wing caca and will not even bother to introduce it. There is a middle ground that can and should be reached on many issues, there are also issues that we have the power now to stop dead in its tracks.

Education and the enviroment are 2 areas that could with a little effort on both sides have a middle ground reached, and hopefully some of the judicial appointments can be pushed through now that Daschle is gone.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:38 AM   #7
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

I'm all for Republicans and Democrats coming together to work to govern well and make America stronger. The trouble will come when Democrats want to impose more damn gun control, increase taxes, cut defense spending to fund some give away programs to the disadvantaged, and institutionalize a whole new healthcase system. As far as I'm concerned, coming together does not mean compromising your principles. As far as I'm concerned, the election has affirmed the Republican principles and repudiated the Democratic principles. As far as I'm concerned, Bush and the Republicans are no the right path and should continue in the course they have set: we just had an election that resoundingly confirmed these plans. By the way, while Bush won by 3%, remember he was playing with an anti-media handicap that Kerry didn't have. 3% is bigger than it sounds, as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 11-04-2004, 01:23 PM   #8
 
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

Do you people really think that the democrats are going to work with republicans? Your in fantasy land. Democrats are all over the news denying that Bush has a clear mandate. Its time for Republicans to start acting like the majority party. Democrats have been lying and bullying for so many years that this is all they know. When Bush got into office he invited T. Kennedy to the whitehouse for dinner and discussion on education. Kennedy responded months later by refferring to Bush as a liar, warmonger, etc. There is only one thing democrats understand: power. If you guys all think that the democrats are going to keep the word on anything, you are nuts. Republicans need to take the "patato" approach and mash them.
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Old 11-04-2004, 01:32 PM   #9
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

I would love to see some real co-operation now. This however does not mean that the Republicans should compromise the basic belief that we hold them to. I am afraid that by co-operation, the Dems mean that they will go 20 percent of the way and we go the rest. We are in power and most of the compromise must come on thier part.
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Default RE: Time to come togather? I don't think so.

JamesB, I don't think you can get a little bit pregnant. I don't see where there are areas of compromise. If someone would like to point those areas out to me I'd appreciate it.

Im not trying to jam it down anyones throat but on the issues of this election, The War in Iraq and Terrorism, The Patriot Act, laws regarding marriage, abortion, 2nd Amendent Rights, education, health care/drugs, taxes, big government and the exploration of oil on lands of our own, there is only one correct answer to any of those issues. The thing is the democrats either have no answer or have the wrong answer.

They either have to come up with some better plans than the Republicans or show the people why the Republican party is wrong. They haven't done that or kerry would have won the election.
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