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Old 10-26-2004, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default Britt hunters might become extinct.

This is scarry how things are developing.

By: Vic Barlow
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The fox-hunting ban that has caused a bloody split in Britain is just the first step anti-hunters will take to stop sportsmen all together.

Huntsmen and women all over Britain are in open revolt. They have watched their way of life be undermined and ridiculed by the urban masses that consider any form of hunting to be abhorrent. So abhorrent that they have campaigned for a total ban. The fact that the vast majority of urban protestors have little or no knowledge of fox hunting or the countryside is unimportant to our lawmakers. To them the Antis have something more precious . votes.

It now looks certain that the Anti-Hunting Bill will become law
throughout the United Kingdom next year. Over 20,000 grooms, kennel hands and stable boys will lose their jobs while 200,000 fox hounds will be destroyed (what do you do with a large pack animal that has been bred and trained to chase?)

That, of course, is the theory; the practice is likely to be something rather different. The Antis have let it be known that once fox hunting has been officially banned, wing-shooters and anglers are next on their agenda - and sportsmen everywhere are incensed. Even those with no interest in shooting, fishing or foxhunting are angry. Angry that city slickers with less experience of rural affairs than Bill Clinton had of military service want to impose their values on country folk.

Visit any pub in any village and you'll hear talk of rebellion and open revolt. Hunters are not going to give up their way of life for anyone. Battle lines are drawn and no lesser person than the Queen of England is in support of the hunters. Only last week close friends of her grandson, Prince William, evaded House of Commons security, barged past the sergeant-in-arms and made a public protest in front of shocked government ministers and a world-wide TV audience. These are extraordinary times.

'It's a matter of democracy' screamed a headline in the liberal press claiming majority opinion was in favour of a ban and that hunters should accept majority rule.

Within days editors were swamped with letters asking if that meant homosexuality was to be made illegal along with rap music and smoking - all of which are unsupported, minority practices.

When handguns of all descriptions were made illegal five years ago, law-abiding sportsmen handed in 150,000 weapons and the Antis claimed a victory - since which time gun crime in Britain has increased by 400 percent. Such is their naivety. They actually believed that career criminals and drug dealers, who account for 90 percent of gun crime, would simply hand over their weapons.

But the fight is no longer about fox hunting or guns but a titanic
struggle to prevent urban liberals imposing their ideals on country
folk. Today their target is fox hunting but soon their attention will
turn to hunters of wildfowl and upland game followed by fishing.
Communities all over Britain relying on these activities will perish.

When Members of Parliament were called to vote on the Anti-Hunting Bill, thousands of huntsmen from all over Britain demonstrated outside the House of Commons blasting their hunting horns and demanding an audience.

Prime Minister Blair, a confirmed Anti, stayed away less he too was embroiled in the mêlée.

The Minister for Country Affairs was too frightened to leave his home where huntsmen were gathered demanding no more than an eyeball-to-eyeball discussion. Many Members of Parliament supporting the ban represent inner city areas and view the entire hunting community with contempt . and it shows.

With wildfowlers, fishermen, huntsmen and women joining forces the government is in for a rough ride. Country folk are resourceful and with their backs to the wall cannot be underestimated.

Last week they blew apart Tony Blair's illusion of 'security' by
invading the floor of the House of Commons. There are rumours that their next protest will grab headlines around the world. Have no doubt that this issue could split the country and affect the result of the coming election. The Blair government could fall not on Iraq but on his determination to ban hunting. The Opposition party (Conservatives) have vowed to repeal any hunting ban should they be elected.

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Vic Barlow has been breeding, training and hunting retrievers since he was a child. He now specializes in training dogs for American-style hunting and splits his time between his home in Cheshire England and Wildrose Kennels in Mississippi, which Vic regards as his second home
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Old 10-26-2004, 12:22 PM   #2
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Let them ban hunting throughout the UK ,
by the time they realize that it's working just as well as their idiotic handgun ban they'll be up to their pits in vermin with no way to control them . They'll beg the hunters to come back , and we'll have a textbook example of what not to do to use against the antis here .
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Old 10-26-2004, 12:46 PM   #3
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Let them ban hunting throughout the UK ,
by the time they realize that it's working just as well as their idiotic handgun ban they'll be up to their pits in vermin with no way to control them . They'll beg the hunters to come back , and we'll have a textbook example of what not to do to use against the antis here .
I see what you're saying, but I think it's a mistake. If libs and antis are good at one thing, it's denial. They'd rather have animals devestate every highway, farm, and garden before they admit they're wrong.

We cannot give these nutjobs any ground anywhere. One you allow someone to suspend your rights, you might as well kiss them goodbye.
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If you ever needed proof that the domino effect would happen with rights, this is it. Anybody in these forums that support Kerry should read this article. This could very likely happen with him as President.
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:36 PM   #5
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Aught ,
I agree with you , and if it happened here I would be on the front line next to you . But Europe has been going the anti route for decades , there's no hope for them anymore , the damage is done . So far we hold the line here , and here is exactly where the line in the sand should be drawn .

We aren't anything like the rest of the world , we're rebels by nature , they're a bunch of pacifist socialist tools who are willing to lower their own standards of living by allowing themselves to be taxed out of existance for idiotic ideals that don't work . Hunting died in Europe long ago , just ask anybody who has been there . Once they can't control their wildlife anymore they'll have to face the truth .
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:17 AM   #6
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By us fighting the good fight here hopefully the glaring stupidity of what has happened in Britian will demonstrate to the rest of the sane world the stupidity of the path they took, stopping dead in its tracks what the antis are trying to do here!
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We aren't anything like the rest of the world , we're rebels by nature , they're a bunch of pacifist socialist tools who are willing to lower their own standards of living by allowing themselves to be taxed out of existance for idiotic ideals that don't work . Hunting died in Europe long ago , just ask anybody who has been there . Once they can't control their wildlife anymore they'll have to face the truth .
I see what you're saying, and I agree. I tend to think of hunters around the world as equals, but they really are such a small part of the culture in Europe. Here in America we went out and hunted or trapped what we needed to survive in a strange, strange land. At the same time over in England, the nobility used the sport as entertainment, and it was something that the common man wouldn't dare think twice about.

Yep, we're rebels. Some of hardest working, most dedicated freedom-loving rebels the world will ever know.
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