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Old 10-13-2004, 08:26 AM   #1
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There is talk about regulations governing automakers to equip all vehicles with a four point harness type seat belt much like those found in race cars.

I think this is interesting. Since we are on the subject of safety/regulation/common sense type issues, what do you think about this? Will it save lives in roll-over type accidents? The seat belt system will be constricting to the driver so the driver will be unable to reach down and pick up something. Will this cause the driver not to wear the belts because of this? Is this just flat out too much governmental regulation and control? Or a great move for safety's sake? I guess the point to this post is to find out where the line is with regulations/control.
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Old 10-13-2004, 08:31 AM   #2
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It does seem to be a bit much ,
and it couldn't possibly provide more protection for the average driver than a lap/shoulder combo . This ain't NASCAR for crying out loud ...
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:06 AM   #3
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This ain't NASCAR for crying out loud ...
Around my area it's more like Indy.

I like seatbelts, and I will always wear them. If others don't like them, that's fine with me. But I'd rather chain myself into the car than be "free" and end up through the windshield. I don't have problem focusing on driving rather than digging around through the car.
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:15 AM   #4
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Double edged sword here, they would be far safer when worn, but I can see a lot of folks not wearing them due to the extra confinement.
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:22 AM   #5
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Double edged sword here, they would be far safer when worn, but I can see a lot of folks not wearing them due to the extra confinement.
Yep, I'd wager money on it. Those 14 kids who've died in the metro area this past month certainly thought they were already too confined with the current seatbelts.
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:32 AM   #6
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IF the safety of automobile drivers were an isse, speeds of cars would be limited to 15 mph and no more, the doors would be solid steel and reinforced and literally bomb proof and drivers and passengers would have to wear helmets with face sheilds.

But the safety of drivers IS NOT a priority, or they'd do those things, wouldn't they ? Lawmakers and special intrest groups (insurance companies) find a "balance" and the result is restrictions that somehwhat help save lives but at the same time doesn't hinder better gas mileage, cheaper auto producition etc etc.

Aint that great ? The cost to save a life isn't worth it - bottom line. This 5 point harness system is a joke - it really is.
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:43 AM   #7
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If I dropped a joint while driving I wouldn't be able to pick it up without taking my seatbelt off?
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:53 AM   #8
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IF the safety of automobile drivers were an isse, speeds of cars would be limited to 15 mph and no more, the doors would be solid steel and reinforced and literally bomb proof and drivers and passengers would have to wear helmets with face sheilds.
Absolutely. Armoring a car is not a viable option because it would make driving pointless. I see no problem with trying to find a compromise in which people are relatively safe, yet still able to move about conveniently.

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But the safety of drivers IS NOT a priority, or they'd do those things, wouldn't they ? Lawmakers and special intrest groups (insurance companies) find a "balance" and the result is restrictions that somehwhat help save lives but at the same time doesn't hinder better gas mileage, cheaper auto producition etc etc.
Safety isn't the highest priority. The ability and convenience to travel is--that's what they car buyers want, not just lawmakers and insurers! I don't think the use of any seatbelt should be mandatory (you know me, a "personal choice" kind of fellow), but buckling up is a small price to pay for not getting thrown around like something in a blender when you go from 60 to 0 in .2 seconds.

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Aint that great ? The cost to save a life isn't worth it - bottom line. This 5 point harness system is a joke - it really is.
What is that supposed to mean? If people don't want to die in a traffic accident, they have every right not to get into a car. I have no problem with people performing a cost-benefit analysis and making their choice. Maybe we should ban cars along with those deadly horses and bicycles?
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Doesn't make any sense.Especially when you think about what pa. just did. doubled their seatbelt checks,them turn around and pass the law Motorcyclist must not wear a helmet.
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If I dropped a joint while driving I wouldn't be able to pick it up without taking my seatbelt off?
Methinks you might have some other problems with that scenario charliep. [8D]
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