here's an example of your "common sense, everyday America "

[stealthycat]

Etheridge and actress Tammy Lynn Michaels held a commitment ceremony in September 2003. The musician, who lives in Los Angeles, shares custody of a daughter and son with former partner Julie Cypher, who had the children through artificial insemination using a sperm donation from rocker David Crosby.

There you go. Normal everyday America

[kevin1]

That's exactly what my cousin and her lover did ,
and while I love my cousin I can't agree that it's the norm , nor that I approve . It is not normal or natural to desire someone of your own gender , it's an abberation in an otherwise intelligent sentient species . Common animals give in to homosexul desire because they don't know better and have no control over their faculties . Being gay serves no purpose other than self gratification . Any other explanation for it is self serving and fallacious .

[stealthycat]

You and I might believe that, VC/BT/Charlie P and the others that use "common sense, everyday society" disagrees that homosexuality is wrong and sinful and against nature.

Its easily provable by how popular and accepted its become in the last 10 years.

[kevin1]

I just find it repugnant personally ,
but homosexual behavior is little more than a matter of convenience and lowering of standards . I've lived for years in areas where gays are the rule rather than the exception , I've spoken with a great number of them whom I believe answered my questions honestly , and I've come to the conclusion that my statement is true .

They are gay because it's just less bother than braving the dating scene , IOW gays are pretty much unisex sluts . I'm not joking . Most of the gays that I've questioned were just oversexed and willing to lower their moral standards to facilitate maximizing their sexual experiences . They were , in effect , addicted to sex and would take almost any avenue to satisfy themselves .

[BT]

sinful agents natuer????
where does natuer list sin???

weather you admit it or not comman sence/judgment and scoity. all have and efect.

common sence is a view.
My common sice tels me whats in this post is worng.
just like crocboy feeding with the kid.

in you above post was any thing illeagle by law.

not by your belife in a religion?

big differince there buddy. crocboy and MJ both were going agenst law. not some belief in religion.

[Aught Six]

That's exactly what my cousin and her lover did ,
and while I love my cousin I can't agree that it's the norm , nor that I approve . It is not normal or natural to desire someone of your own gender , it's an abberation in an otherwise intelligent sentient species . Common animals give in to homosexul desire because they don't know better and have no control over their faculties . Being gay serves no purpose other than self gratification . Any other explanation for it is self serving and fallacious .

Homosexuality certainly is at least partially rooted in biology, which also explains why small numbers of animal populations are homosexual. Everyone can call it a selfish sin all they want, but that doesn't really explain anything at all, except of course a person's prejudices.

Saying that animals don't know any better makes no sense at all. If they don't know any better, then biology is the only explanation. And, remember, humans are also part of the animal kingdom as well.

If you want to hate the sin, so bet it. But don't discount facts because they don't match your reasons for the hate.

[BT]

Its easily provable by how popular and accepted its become in the last 10 years.

OK SC.

If you would have been brought up in a scioty that exceptes hs and did so for the last 200years and you had no bibical learing.
to sway your views.
i am betting you would have no problem with it.

There again scioty efect what is "normal"

and it dose not matter where you live on earth or what time period you live it.
scioty views efect "normal" and comman sence.

[kevin1]

BT ,
since you're not familiar with me I'll start by saying that I'm an atheist . Unlike Stealthycat I don't believe in God so I can't claim that my religion prevents me from accepting homosexuals , my opinion is entirely my own .

I can appreciate that your common sense is telling you that this post is wrong , it is a very confrontational post and likely to draw a response . Yes , believe it or not being gay is illegal in California by law , but because a very large percentage of California's population is gay the law is routinely ignored .

I can't complain about the vast majority of gay people I met , most of them were very decent , likeable folks who would give you the shirt off their backs without a second thought . They were hard working , giving , loving folks who just want to live their lives , and I won't begrudge them that . But I can't accept their lifestyle , which is all it looks like to me . Asking for special rights because of who you sleep with should never be a criteria of law .

Tell me BT , are you a religious person ? Are you more secular ? I'm just addressing what Stealthycat posted from a more neutral viewpoint , I don't wish to offend .

[stealthycat]

which also explains why small numbers of animal populations are homosexual

Untrue. They are BISEXUAL at best, never homosexual.


Huge difference


BT - You're going to have to start copying and pasting your stuff to a Word document and running spell check. I mean, its getting bad and even this arkansas illiterae is having a hard time reading your posts !

[Charlie P]

Sin? I don't believe in God so sin doesn't fall into the discussion for me. There always have been homosexual always will be, must have some part in nature. Wrong I really don't care what two consenting adults do in their bedroom or where evre they do it in the privacy of their own home.

You know waht the homo's don't do much more then alot of hetrosexual couples do. They just do it with the same sex,which really doesn't concern me.