Uprising 'In Its Entirety a Mistake'

[WANWTF]

Abbas: Uprising 'In Its Entirety a Mistake'
Former Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, who resigned his post more than a year ago, now says the Palestinian uprising "” known as the intifada "” was "in its entirety a mistake and should not have continued."

Abbas, quoted by the Jerusalem Post, says that "after four years of the intifada, ... [Israeli Prime Minister Ariel] Sharon did not fall. On the contrary, he has become the most popular [leader] in the history of Israel..."

"On the same note, all the Palestinian lands are now occupied and vulnerable ... [and] We damaged our relations with the Americans and with Israeli public opinion."

That last sentence is very interesting.

[kevin1]

I find it interesting only in the context that those idiots actually think that they have any land . They have been a nomadic tribe since the dawn of history , and the victors of WW2 ceded the land to the Israelis over 50 years ago as compensation for the Holocaust . They never had any land to begin with .

If it weren't for the fact that it would destabilize the Middle East to the point of all out war I'd be in favor of Israel just kicking all of them out once and for all . [:@]

[Aught Six]

I find it interesting only in the context that those idiots actually think that they have any land . They have been a nomadic tribe since the dawn of history , and the victors of WW2 ceded the land to the Israelis over 50 years ago as compensation for the Holocaust . They never had any land to begin with .

If it weren't for the fact that it would destabilize the Middle East to the point of all out war I'd be in favor of Israel just kicking all of them out once and for all .

This is what my heart says to me. My brain, on the other hand, says to give the Palestinians an independent state. Then if they keep up with the holy war, reconquer the land and kill the rabble-rousing leadership while expelling the civilians back to Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, or whatever other countries they originated from.

[kevin1]

That's the wonderfully damnable part of it Aught ,
nobody could successfully prove that the Palestinians ever settled any land at all .

The other Arabs side with them simply because they're fellow Arabs , and because they are the underdogs in the "struggle" with the "zionists" . Clashes of ideology rarely employ sense as a weapon ....

I would also like to see the Palestinian people get a homeland , the problem is that they want one that someone else already has a legal claim to . Neither side is willing to compromise or(God forbid) coexist peacefully , so the world teeters on the brink of yet another stupid useless war until these 12th century mentality fools reach a concensus .

[Aught Six]

I would also like to see the Palestinian people get a homeland , the problem is that they want one that someone else already has a legal claim to . Neither side is willing to compromise or(God forbid) coexist peacefully , so the world teeters on the brink of yet another stupid useless war until these 12th century mentality fools reach a concensus .

That's the thing. The Jews laid claim to the land thousands of years ago, but they couldn't hold onto it. While I suppose I'd like to see Israel succeed, I really don't believe they have any more of a valid claim than the Palestinians. It's like saying that Native Americans were here first, so we Americans should be sent back to England, etc., etc. We can't undo all the wrongs of the past, and especially not the dispersion/enslavement of the Jews in OT times.

[kevin1]

ORIGINAL: Aught Six

That's the thing. The Jews laid claim to the land thousands of years ago, but they couldn't hold onto it. While I suppose I'd like to see Israel succeed, I really don't believe they have any more of a valid claim than the Palestinians. It's like saying that Native Americans were here first, so we Americans should be sent back to England, etc., etc. We can't undo all the wrongs of the past, and especially not the dispersion/enslavement of the Jews in OT times.

Whether they held it historically or not ,
the Israelis have the stronger claim . When the loser nations surrendered they also surrendered all right to any occupied territories they may have occupied at the moment . The victors ceded Israel the land , making it all theirs once the state of Israel came into being officially . The wrongs of the past are not historically significant here , the Palestinians were unable to hold claim too , the Israelis won by default . They won by mutual agreement .

[Aught Six]

Whether they held it historically or not ,
the Israelis have the stronger claim . When the loser nations surrendered they also surrendered all right to any occupied territories they may have occupied at the moment . The victors ceded Israel the land , making it all theirs once the state of Israel came into being officially . The wrongs of the past are not historically significant here , the Palestinians were unable to hold claim too , the Israelis won by default . They won by mutual agreement .

This is the main reason I agree with the recognition of Israel as a nation. Well, that and the fact that the Jews don't systematically target civilians.

[CalHunter]

The other Arabs side with them simply because they're fellow Arabs , and because they are the underdogs in the "struggle" with the "zionists" . Clashes of ideology rarely employ sense as a weapon ....

The other arab nations also don't want the palestinians in their respective countries because they know better.