Is political correctness the best way to win a war?

[virginiaJim]

I have been called a few names on this site because of my feelings about the people we are at war with. I think very little of them and speak my mind. Am I worng? Is it bad to call people we are at war with names? I understand that people from some of the countries we are at war with live in this country and I feel they dont care about America and the way I live my life. Baseball, golf, hunting, bbq. I think they are moving in and trying to change us by making us feel bad about our selvs because we want American to stay the way we know it while dont accept the way we live. They have had cities in this country forced to play prayer calls at 5am, they have fired employees for eating pork at work. I read this stuff every day. Try moving to Saudi and opening up a sandwich shop. I dare ya.


Let me know. If Im wrong, I will leave the site and never return.


Jim Norman
Richmond Virginia.

[BT]

Being PC is no way to win any war. espicaly this one.

This is a debat board your going check some slack no matter what you posision.
dont take it so scericsly and have fun.

[biscuit jake]

I get your point. I currently work in an office with many, many lady coworkers. Bunch of em are doggone liberal. Now, when we were watching the World Trade Center Towers collapse (the boss let us run a TV that day) my comment was "nuke them till they glow, shoot them in the dark, and use their heads for runway lights." And everyone seemed to get it, on that particular day. But memories fade. I have been stationed in the Gulf and it was my least liked duty.

Also, I recognize that HuntingNet.com "brought us to the dance" as far as using this forum, and they have rules. ('hope I have not leaned on them too much.) Soooo.... I will keep my nifty little bad guy terms to myself. I think it is normal to abhor those who slaughter your innocent neighbors.

[Aught Six]

Jim, say what you want. I might disagree with you strongly on some points, but that should never lead you to keep your mouth shut altogether. The great thing about this forum is that we can meet, discuss, and argue until the cows come home. As long as you obey the site's rules, all's fair IMHO.

I have nothing against Islam or its peaceful followers. While I don't want to live in any other country than this one, I have no desire to obliterate the Middle East or any other region of the world. As long as people live peacefully and respect the inalienable rights of others, I have no issue with anyone.

Now it's clear that rights are very much lacking in the Middle East (and elsewhere), not to mention that many there want America and its people dead. Still, most Muslims are in fact just trying to eke out an existence and provide for their families. It's the murderous scumbag terrorists I'm interested in destroying, not the majority of "normal" people.

I think the best way for success in the Middle East is to kill our enemies without hesitation or mercy, but at the same time offer help and hope to those who want a chance at freedom. Flinging nukes is a step in the wrong direction, and should be used as the very last resort. Even with all of the hotbeds of militant Islamic fundamentalism over there, not everyone is our sworn enemy. That's important to remember.

So carry on, and if you do offend someone, they'll let you know. Whether you want to stay or go is entirely up to you at this point, but I welcome you here. Personally, I enjoy reading your thoughts on socialism in this country; the far-left shift in the Democratic Party disturbs me almost as much as the terrorism we've experienced.

[etothepii]

On an internet forum, people judge you on the words you use. If you care about what people think of you, then choose your words carefully. If you could give a darn what other people think, then speak the way you want (within the rules, of course). Just don't get riled up about the responses you get.

[Charlie P]

I understand that people from some of the countries we are at war with live in this country and I feel they dont care about America and the way I live my life.

Same thing was said when the Itialians,Irish and just about any ethnic group immagtrated here. Many of these arrivals cherish this country more then people that have lived here for Generations,take for example my father. He grew up under the thunb of a dictator,no free speech no elections you won't find a prouder American. America is calle dthe melting pot for a reason.Give any ethinic group long enough and they assimilate,to a point. They alway's keep some of their ethnic orinality and that's one of the things that makes this country great.

[Charlie P]

Just don't let the hate you talked about in the other thread totally consume youir thoughts and words.

[Tazman]

I think it is normal to abhor those who slaughter your innocent neighbors.

biscuit jake, you are right, it is normal and justified, but should we hate every German for the 6 million dead jews? Should we hate every ***enese because of the atrocities commited during WWII? Should we hate every Native American for thier atrocities commited against us? Should we hate all Christians because of Oklahoma City? Should we hate all whites for the atrocity of slavery?

If you can answer yes to all of those then we are in a sad state of affairs. We should hate the individuals that commit the acts, not the race, nationality or religion they belong to.

virginiaJim the idea of this board is to express our feelings and why we feel that way, many times no ones mind is changed, but sometimes peoples eyes are opened to their own feelings and beleifs on a particular subject and whether they admit it or not on the board they walk away from here with a different opinion. My opinion is bigotry is wrong, no matter if it is against a religion, race or nationality.

[DaveH]

Jim--I agree with you more than I disagree. Political correctness had gone way overboard in this country and we give more leeway to those who are known to seek our destruction in it's name.

Most people on this board have probably seen the e-mail that's gone around numerous times listing the terrorist acts that have been committed entirely by muslims. Since they are KNOWN for this, then scrutinizing them and their activities in entirely understandable . . . and essential. However, we're so concerned about world opinion that we allow middle-easterners freer access to airplanes and such to show how "understanding" we are.

I realize that not all muslims harbor terroristic feelings, but if you know that certain ethnic groups are behind these acts, then you need to be cautious when dealing with them.

[Nobody Home]

Man.......this is some funny stuff!! Don't know how old this particular post is...I was tooling around looking for a tip or two about fall turkey hunting in Tennessee.
Then I found this post that really got my attention. From a moderator no less... And I began to agree...No, we shouldn't hate the Germans for the dead Jews. No, we are not going to hate the ***anese for their atrocities. So far, so good. God Bless. Unless one is a Muslim, then...Allah Bless. Whatever.
The second sentence into the post I'm reading: "Should we hate every Native American for their atrocities committed against us?" That's pretty much when I fell out of my chair laughing. I was laughing too hard to experience any other emotion.
I disregarded the post and then came back. I hate to be the harbinger here...Seems like somebody has already hurt somebody's feelings...But I couldn't sit by and disregard the opportunity to educate... Or perhaps I am soliciting my own education.
Seems like a large group of people were just chilling in their homeland. Then, another larger and more adequately armed group of people decided they wanted the land on which the others lived. On this land was opportunity for progressive development and massive amounts of precious metals. So it was decided that the only Christian thing to do was to run the people off their land. Are we all together here so far?
Well, the bad news was that those people did not see the need to leave. After all, God, Wakan Tonka, Allah, whomever the creator really is, put them there. They just all woke up one day and that's where they were. It seemed only reasonable to call that place "home". Can we all agree that there truly is no place like home?
And we, the modern day "American" man, truly know to what length we would defend our home. Do we not? I've read many posts on this site and despite the cool nicknames, I know the men from the women. Think about the quote "Nuke em till they glow, shoot em in the dark and use their heads for runway lights". That's Biscuit Jake. I for one don't need to wonder whether or not that person is a man. And I have no doubt that if I had a metal detector and found gold in Jake's back yard, He'd shoot, skin, or scalp me for trying to hop his fence and steal it.
I have learned over the years what the term "Hostile Aggression" means. If Biscuit Jake caught me in his backyard with a shovel in my hand, and my son standing next to me holding a canvas bag full of Jakes dirt, he would consider me a "Hostile Aggressor". At that point, Jake would dispatch me and my son posthaste. Then, he'd go in the house and eat chili. And laugh. He defended his "home". He defended what God naturally endowed him with. His property and all it contained.
The great Nez Perce Chief Joseph ran away peacefully with his people. He ran and he ran. He killed most of his people in an effort to save them. Neither I nor Jake would have ran. Neither would most men on this site. We would fight and try to preserve what was ours, so rightfully given by God Himself, and we would take any means necessary to that end...
Native Americans were never, ever, a hostile aggressor. They simply danced to the tune of the times. Like any of us would today. That's what distiguishes us from the rest of the world. We've learned to accept the past as history and live beyond hate.
I cannot remember now who made the statement that got me going on this lengthy diatribe. I only wanted to point out that I was taught the same miguided perceptions in school as a child. The sad part is that my mother is a member of the Three Fires Chippewa, a small band of "Native Americans" who almost no longer exist. Since time began, they never raised a hand to any person in an offensive position. She never argued with the system or the information we were given at school. She simply let us learn with our own heads and our own hearts, and hoped we'd see the truth in time.
Now, having said all of that, can anyone help me out with some tips on fall turkey hunting in the Southeastern U.S.???????