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Old 10-05-2004, 11:13 AM   #1
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Can anyone tell me why the democrats today are not the same as the socialists I was trained to kill in the ARMY? They are doing nothing but working over time to make sure we dont think for ourselvs. That we should drive small cars and not have guns becuase they might hurt or kill someone. And all they want to do is take our money and give it to people that dont work hard to put food on the table. they want to take things away from people who have worked hard and just pass it out to other people so they can feel good? And why on earth should we ever respect the UN?

Someone please tell me why democrats today have a voice in this country!
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:24 AM   #2
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It's because socialists have, for lack of a better word, infiltrated the Democratic Party. It goes back to the Vietnam era, and perhaps even further still. Now we see the most liberal national politician running for president. Considering the grip that Democrats have over big cities, minorities, labor, and the education system, I'm afraid we'll become the USSA within a matter of a couple generations.
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:54 AM   #3
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Read the constitution and the bill of rights,maybe you'll figure it out.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:07 PM   #4
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That's the short answer, Charlie. But again, the real reason these demo-socialists continue to have a voice and grow in power is because of the grip they maintain in the social issues arena. Those who favor socialism over democracy are using our own democratic principles against us to grow in the name of "helping the little guy" fight "the man". Sounds a lot like Marism-Lenism to me.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:10 PM   #5
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Don't mistake me for a Democrat -- I'm not, I'm a registered Republican -- but the problem is not in the Democratic party but in ourselves. The Democrats can only get traction with their schemes of national healthcare, centrally controlling the economy (how soon before someone says we ought to have gasoline price controls rather than let the laws of suppy and demand set the price? what is minimum wage but one element of a centrally controlled economy?), and doling out necessities because people bellow to get this stuff.

"I've got a problem! How can the unfeeling government, a vast reservoir of resources, stand by and watch me suffer with my problem! It is government's job to fix people's problems, right!?"

Whoever can place themselves into the role of reciting words such as these is the true source of the problem you have identified. And Democrats do not have a corner on responding to this bellyaching by slipping out the government checkbook and throwing money at the problems. Republicans do this too.

I would much prefer that people think of the US government as having strictly delimited powers as expressed in the constitution. It isn't written in the constitution, then the government doesn't have any business in that. The government has gone FAR, FAR beyond this strictly delimited role. In some cases, sure, I'm with the program and think we as a nation are wise to do this. The difficulty comes in drawing a line. I just think we shouldn't automatically assume the government needs to get involved when a problem exists.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:16 PM   #6
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I just dont understand how people can keep their head down for 4 years, then pick it up one day and vote democrat. You show me a democrat and I will show you someone who does not know the issues. The democrats in office are not true democrats, they are socilist that are using our system to keep them in power. They keep people poor in order to have someone to help. They think every day people are too dumb to live their own lives. We should not own guns because they might kill someone. Or we should drive small cars because we are not helping the environment. While they fly in jets and motorcades. They burn more gas than my entire town and they want me to drive a small car? They have people around them armed to the teeth and they want me to give up my right to protect my family? They want me to give more money to the government while they vote for thier pay increases? Give me a break.

Something has got to give.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:21 PM   #7
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"I've got a problem! How can the unfeeling government, a vast reservoir of resources, stand by and watch me suffer with my problem! It is government's job to fix people's problems, right!?"

Thats socialist speak. The Government should only do what the constitution has laid out for it to do. Not what people think it should do. The Government has resources provided to it by the people. So its only a matter of time before it implodes from a lack of resources because they will have sucked the life out of everyone who has worked hard.

If I am going to pay 60% of my income in tax, then why should I work so damn hard. I am just going to figure out what I need to make to fall into the lower bracket and have the same take home.
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