Bush/Kerry interview in Field & Stream! (read it here first, folks!)

[ButchA]

Here's the basis for Field & Stream's upcoming article/interview with both Bush and Kerry.

http://www.tonydean.com/issues2.html?sectionid=5456

Bush's interview is great. He says who he is and what he stands for. Kerry's interview just made me sick!!! [:@][:@][:@] If you have a strong stomach, and it's before lunchtime, go ahead and read his interview.

I just got three words to say about Kerry's interview....

WHAT A POSER!!!!!!!![:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]

Butch A.

[Alsatian]

I doubt that many people who care about their gun rights will be fooled by Kerry's position in this interview. This doesn't mean they won't voter for them. My dad was a lifetime NRA member, owned many guns, built guns (inletted stocks, carved stocks, assembled custom barrel onto commercial action), reloaded, shot skeet, hunted upland game birds, and did limited deer hunting . . . but was a staunch democratic voter.

Anyway, Kerry isn't fooling any true sportsmen.

[driftrider]

Marshall: What"™s the biggest deer you ever killed?

Now, I know for a fact that if you asked any REAL deer hunter this question, he'd be able to tell you with 100% certainty how many points the rack had, at least the approximate weight (on the hoof and dressed), the time, date and location that the deer was shot, how far it ran before it went down, and a detailed recollection of the events leading up to and after the animal was shot.

Here's Kerry's response to that very question:

Senator Kerry: Oh, I don"™t know. Probably an 8-pointer, something like that. Nothing terribly big. But I once had an incredible encounter with the most enormous buck"”I don"™t know, 16 points or something. It was just huge. And I failed to pull the trigger at the right moment. I was hunting down in Massachusetts, on the Cape.

Pretty vague for someone who proclaims himself to be an avid hunter and outdoorsman. Sounds like he's making it up as he goes. I can tell you with certainty that if I ever ran into a 16 pointer in the woods, I'd remember precisely where I was (not just that I was "on the Cape" in Massachusetts), because I'd be back to that spot every chance I got until I found him again and put his rack on my wall. So would every other deer hunter here and elsewhere. Hunting must not be something that gets "seared" into moose-face's memory banks.

On the other hand, in Bush's interview he describes himself as an avid fisherman. The interviewer asked him a similar question and here it is with Bush's response:

Evans: Have you got one particular bass that you"™ve caught that you remember? What"™s the biggest one you"™ve ever caught?

President Bush: Nine and a half pounds on Rainbow Lake in East Texas. Here [in Crawford], the biggest one I think we"™ve caught thus far"”and this is about a 3-1/2-year-old lake"”is probably 5 pounds. Not worth measuring.

Now that's the response of a true sportsman.

Bush is also not at all afraid to be honest about his abilities, contrary to Kerry who'd have you believe that he was Davy Crockett. He isn't afraid to admit that he's not a great shot, and he's also not exactly super gun savvy as the following exchange illustrates...

Evans: Speaking of guns"¦ We"™ve talked about this already, but what kinds of guns do you own, and do you have a favorite?

President Bush: My favorite gun is the first gun that my dad gave me, which is a Winchester .22 pump, Model 61. Another gun that"™s one of my favorites is a Weatherby custom-made gun presented to me by the CEO of the company, Mr. Weatherby. I"™ve probably got six or seven guns in a safe in my office there: two shotguns, two .22s, a couple of deer rifles and a varmint rifle. A .248?

Evans: A .243, maybe?

President Bush: A .243. I beg your pardon, a .243. Given to me by the former lieutenant governor of Texas, Bob Bullock, my old buddy, who on his deathbed said, "œI want to give you a gun."�

Evans: Who"™s the better shot, you or Vice President Cheney?

President Bush: No contest"”Vice President Cheney. He is an avid outdoorsman. I had him down here for some meetings, and we got up first thing in the morning and went fishing. He flyfished, and I bubba-baited. But he loved it.

A lot of times we"™ll be on a [video conference], and I"™ll say, "œWhat are you going to be doing today?"� And he"™ll say, "œI"™m going out on the river."� He"™s a really good fisherman, and a great shot. I"™ve seen him shoot before"”skeet at Camp David. And he"™s really good"”and I"™m not.

Evans: And what about Senator Kerry"”could you take him on the skeet field?

president bush: I don"™t know. I imagine he"™s a pretty good shot. I don"™t know if he"™s any good or not.

Evans: There is a rumor"”around our office, anyway"”that you keep copies of Field & Stream on Air Force One.

President Bush: Yes, I do. I do, interestingly enough.

Evans: What"™s the first thing you generally turn to?

President Bush: Fishing! You know, I spend more time looking at the fishing stories than the hunting stories.

One other thing I couldn't help but notice is that Bush never once bashes Kerry, including the above opening provided by the interviewer. Shows me that Bush is a man of character. Kerry, on the other hand, never passed up an opportunity to bash the President. When asked about policy Bush addressed the questions based on what he and his administration is or is not doing, as well as addresses the relevant issues in government outside the direct perview of the White House. He also admits that government certainly isn't perfect, and that buerocracy can derail even the best laid plans.

Kerry, on the other hand, focuses not on any well thought out plans he might have for these issues he's asked about, but rather falls back on his tired routine of bashing Bush. If Kerry spent half as much time and effort thinking about realistic solutions to genuine problems that he does thinking about how he can bash the President, who I feel is doing his best given the circumstances in the world in in our own government, he might actually have a chance to not only get elected, but actually do something good while in office. Unfortunately, a lackluster career in the Senate seems to indicate that Kerry isn't very good at coming up with workable solutions to real-world problems. On that point, notice how Kerry, when referring to his Senate record, only mentions bills he's co-sponsored or just voted for, but none that he's personally written. Sounds to me like Kerry is more of a follower than a leader. He lets others think up the ideas, and then jumps on the bandwagon and takes credit for it.

That right there makes Kerry "Unfit For Command," IMO.

Mike

[Fireblade545]

"And I failed to pull the trigger at the right moment." Please tell me WHAT THE HELL HE MEANS BY THIS??

[Handles]

I see the interview differently than you guys, but I figured that before I ever read the stuff.
I would say not knowing a .243 THAT YOU OWN is in about the same boat as not knowing what your biggest deer was.
Bush really seemed vague wetlands and pollutants questions, kerry who is more of a hunter than bush is more concerned about waterfowl and water quality.

[driftrider]

I don't agree that the two are the same. Not knowing the caliber of a gun that was given to him by someone else indicates to me that he's not very gun savvy. Yet, if you read what he said he openly admits that he's not much of a hunter, anyway, so it's much more likely Bush would be able to tell you the types of fishing rods he owns and the purpose of each before he'd be able to tell you the caliber of a rifle that he may have never shot.

Kerry, on the other hand, trys to get us to buy into his story that he's an AVID hunter, yet can't with certainty tell us number of points the biggest deer he shot had, something every deer hunter I've ever known not only knows well, but brags about given any reasonable opportunity. The largest deer one has shot is something that, as Kerry would put it, gets "seared" into ones mind. Yet Kerry doesn't have a clue. Of course, I'm sure that the interviewer was setting Kerry up with that question, whether he knew it or not. And Kerry, by trying to BS his way through such a seemingly irrelevant question, proved to every real sportsman reading the interview that he was full of s**t (except a few die-hard Kerry supporters who'd believe anything that comes out of Kerry's mouth was nothing but the sincerest truth).

I don't know about you, but there was a time before I started paring down my gun collection, that I couldn't list from memory all the guns I owned, and I am an avid shooter and hunter, but I could describe in detail the day I shot my first deer.

Just because you've picked up a gun and gone into the woods doesn't make one a hunter. If you've done it for a photo op to boost a political campaign, then you're nothing but a deceitful opportunist. Kerry is nothing more than a poseur hunting for enough positive press time to dupe real hunters, sportsmen, and gun owners into believing that he actually gives a crap about them and the sport they love. Kerry only presses the issue because he knows that it was sceptical gun owners and sportsmen that torpedoed Gores campaign and contributed to the Democrats massive losses in congress in the last 10 years.

I have no illusions about Bush. I know he doesn't live for deer season, I know he doesn't stew about bullet selection, gun caliber, stand placement, deer sign and behavior, etc... He's not a go-to guy is you want to talk about where and when to hunt deer. He admits that while he has hunted, and supports hunters and hunting, he's not a great hunter or a great shot. He's honest and humble about his abilities and knowledge. Kerry, on the other hand, boasts constantly about the hunter he thinks he is, believing that meer words will convince us that he's "one of us," when that elitist crapbag couldn't be farther from us if he tried.

Mike

[Handles]

Kerry at least has his facts straight about the environment and its importance to the hunter/fisherman. In addition saying over and over that he will not take away guns from hunters even though the NRA hates him.
Bush is #1. about big buisness and making it happen regardless of the environmental outcome. He *****-foots about how he will deal with soxes and noxes. Re-read what they each said about drilling for oil in our country. It becomes pretty clear that Bush dances around the issue.
I can't hunt ducks if there are no wetlands.

[PAhunter86]

In addition saying over and over that he will not take away guns from hunters even though the NRA hates him.

But he won't hesitate to keep banning more types of guns.

[Coastie]

There hasn't been a President since Teddy Roosevelt that was actually an avid hunter and since Eisenhauer that was an avid fisherman. I doubt 1 out of 1000 politicians gives a hoot about wetlands, ducks, deer, quail or mice except what the issues surounding them can do for them at the polls. Wetlands and habitat concerns are no more than talking points for kerry and if it were not for his handlers, he wouldn't even be aware that there were concerns about them to begin with.

[oldelkhunter]

What a Jackass ..I remember every Deer or other large game animal I have ever taken since more then 30 years back and I can tell you what the rack looked like and how many points. Oh its getting deep with this clown