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Old 09-09-2004, 01:36 PM   #1
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This is just now on Drudge, showing you that Democrats will go to any length, even forgery, to try and take down Bush. How despicable!

'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
September 09, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a current word processing program, according to typography experts.

Three independent typography experts told CNSNews.com they were suspicious of the documents from 1972 and 1973 because they were typed using a proportional font, not common at that time, and they used a superscript font feature found in today's Microsoft Word program.

The "60 Minutes" segment included an interview with former Texas lieutenant governor Ben Barnes, who criticized Bush's service. The news program also produced a series of memos that claim Bush refused to follow an order to undertake a medical examination.

The documents came from the "personal office file" of Bush's former squadron commander Jerry B. Killian, according to Kelli Edwards, a spokeswoman for "60 Minutes," who was quoted in Thursday's Washington Post. Edwards declined to tell the Post how the news program obtained the documents.

But the experts interviewed by CNSNews.com honed in on several aspects of a May 4, 1972, memo, which was part of the "60 Minutes" segment and was posted on the CBS News website Thursday.

"It was highly out of the ordinary for an organization, even the Air Force, to have proportional-spaced fonts for someone to work with," said Allan Haley, director of words and letters at Agfa Monotype in Wilmington, Mass. "I'm suspect in that I did work for the U.S. Army as late as the late 1980s and early 1990s and the Army was still using [fixed-pitch typeface] Courier."

The typography experts couldn't pinpoint the exact font used in the documents. They also couldn't definitively conclude that the documents were either forged using a current computer program or were the work of a high-end typewriter or word processor in the early 1970s.

But the use of the superscript "th" in one document - "111th F.I.S" - gave each expert pause. They said that is an automatic feature found in current versions of Microsoft Word, and it's not something that was even possible more than 30 years ago.

"That would not be possible on a typewriter or even a word processor at that time," said John Collins, vice president and chief technology officer at Bitstream Inc., the parent of MyFonts.com.

"It is a very surprising thing to see a letter with that date [May 4, 1972] on it," and featuring such typography, Collins added. "There's no question that that is surprising. Does that force you to conclude that it's a fake? No. But it certainly raises the eyebrows."

Fred Showker, who teaches typography and introduction to digital graphics at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Va., questioned the documents' letterhead.

"Let's assume for a minute that it's authentic," Showker said. "But would they not have used some form of letterhead? Or has this letterhead been intentionally cut off? Notice how close to the top of the page it is."

He also pointed to the signature of Killian, the purported author of the May 4, 1972, memo ordering Bush, who was at the time a first lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard, to obtain a physical exam.

"Do you think he would have stopped that 'K' nice and cleanly, right there before it ran into the typewriter 'Jerry," Showker asked. "You can't stop a ballpoint pen with a nice square ending like that ... The end of that 'K' should be round ... it looks like you took a pair of snips and cut it off so you could see the 'Jerry.'"

The experts also raised questions about the military's typewriter technology three decades ago. Collins said word processors that could produce proportional-sized fonts cost upwards of $20,000 at the time.

"I'm not real sure that you would have that kind of sophistication in the office of a flight inspector in the United States government," Showker said.

"The only thing it could be, possibly, is an IBM golf ball typewriter, which came out around the early to middle 1970s," Haley said. "Those did have proportional fonts on them. But they weren't widely used."

But Haley added that the use of the superscript "th" cast doubt on the use of any typewriter.

"There weren't any typewriters that did that," Haley said. "That looks like it might be a function of something like Microsoft Word, which does that automatically."

According to an article on the CBS News website, the news program "consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic."

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Old 09-09-2004, 01:39 PM   #2
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THATS ABOUT RIGHT HUH THERE GA -TRULY PATHETIC
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THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE SHOULD BE TRACKED DOWN AND SUED BY BUSH FOR SLANDER THEN
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Man it seems like everything the demmies do backfires on them, but then again when you spue the amount of lies and untruths as they do what else could one expect?
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Old 09-10-2004, 08:31 AM   #5
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The document analysts are still out, but it seems a 14 pt. WordPerfect font was probably not around in the early- to mid-70's. I could be wrong; after all, I just work in the document printing & duplication industry.

Has anyone noticed how many screw-ups CBS has gotten itself into this year? From the Superbowl, they've just gone straight downhill.
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Yes the Clinton Broadcasting Service will probably take a severe hit if this is true
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Old 09-10-2004, 08:49 AM   #7
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I heard the talking heads speculate that if the documents are demonstrated to be forgeries, this will actually provide a distinct boost to bush or a distinct downer for Kerry, as it should be.

I doubt that it will happen, but if I were MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE, if it is demonstrated that the CBS documents were forgeries, I would sick the Justice Department on the matter as an attempt to corrupt an election. If CBS stonewalled and refused to reveal the source of the documents, the buck stops at CBS's door and they are culpable for attempting to corrupt an election; if CBS gives up the source, then the source who forged the documents -- George Sorros? -- is on the hot seat for attempting to corrupt an election.

I'm known to be a hot head to my wife who I spout off freely to on such matters, so in more composed reflection this course may be ill-advised. Maybe the greatest satisfaction is just seeing what was intended to damage Bush come back and benefit Bush.

Someone in this thread said everything comes back and hurts the Democrats. You could argue that their problem is they have lost connection with reality. They have demonized Bush and have bought into their own propaganda that Bush is worse than Hitler. No wonder they don't mount an effective campaign when they are burdened by such a misapprehension of reality. They refuse to seek for cause and effect relationships in their behavior and use their experience or analysis to guide their future behavior, so they keep saying and advocating stupid things that adults have come to understand don't work! Gun control legislation is a case in point. Does gun control reduce crime? They don't ask that question, they just pile on more gun legislation and it comes back to hurt them.
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