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Old 08-27-2004, 09:40 AM   #1
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130325,00.html

An officer who served with John Kerry (search) finally broke his silence Thursday about the Swift vets controversy "” and said Kerry accidentally wounded himself before requesting his first Purple Heart.

In a detailed new account that is certain to fuel the growing controversy, eyewitness William Schachte Jr. (search), a retired rear admiral, told columnist Robert Novak (search) for Friday's papers that he was "astonished" to hear Kerry's version of the events of Dec. 2, 1968, when Schachte was in command of Kerry aboard a skimmer boat on the Mekong River.

Schachte said that Kerry:

"” Wasn't wounded by hostile fire.

"” Wasn't even under fire by the enemy.

"” "Nicked" himself with a grenade launcher and "requested a Purple Heart" afterward.

If Schachte's version is accurate, Kerry would not have been eligible for the award, the first of the three Purple Hearts he received.

To win a Purple Heart, military personnel must have a wound that requires medical treatment, and it must have been received during the course of an engagement with the enemy, even if the wound was not a result of hostile fire.

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Old 08-27-2004, 09:50 AM   #2
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When you consider how much of a enemy Kerry was/is to the US, his wound should be considered received from "hostile fire", right?
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:02 AM   #3
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Purple Heart #2 was self-inflicted too. It occurred when he was playing around and threw a grenade into some rice and caught some rice in the butt. A band-aid covered it.

Number 3 came later the same day when he bumped his elbow into a bunker and got a small bruise on it. The medical report says that it was treated with a cold cloth. He had to get those 3 in a hurry so he could get the heck outta "nam.
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:14 AM   #4
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Hey guys, let's also not forget:

We haven't heard from anyone who can remember GW showing up for the guard, but the dems aren't pushing this. I ain't saying the dems are right, I'm just saying it's time to put this one to bed. We continue to here more and more about this, and it might backfire. The liberal media has realy made this look bad for GW, especially when the Novak story gets littlte headlines, but a GW attorney resigning gets big headlines. The indepenants might be swayed to Mr. catchup.
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:24 AM   #5
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The difference I think is that Kery is all rah rah over being a veteran and waving his Purple Hearts around - its a lie, a scam, its not the truth and he's being called on it.

GW doesn't thump his own chest about his military background like that.
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:37 AM   #6
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What's the bigger sin in a voter's eyes ?

1) Going to where the fighting is and trumping up some decorations so that you can go home early looking like a hero to further your ambitions , then turning on your fellow vets when you get back ?

or

2) Joining the Natl. Guard knowing that you probably won't get rotated to a combat zone ?

Both satisfy your military obligation .

It seems to me that #! is the greater sin of the two .
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:54 AM   #7
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Kevin< With Bush it's not that he went into the ANG it's how he got there. Lowest grade you can get and still be considered and then jump in front of 500 other people. Come on.

Kerry commited war crimes and the basically treason when he returned.

What a couple lame choices at such an important time in our history.
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Kerry reported for Duty at the DNC convention. He got himself into this quagmire and no one else. He should have paid off these Vets better
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Charlie ,
I'll agree that Bush's ANG service is a point of some debate , but unlike Skerry he didn't go over gung ho for medals and glory and come back a pinko . Nebulous or not , ANG service still counts as military service , calling yourself a war hero after what Skerry did is reprehensible and a slap in the face to all vets .

Skerry is a disgrace to all who have served and a piss poor choice for CIC in general . [:@]
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:02 PM   #10
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Did GW join anti war groups ?
Did GW throw medals at the White House ?
Did GW recieve 3 questionable Purple Hearts ?

and the biggest question ........

Is GW flaunting his military record ?

No, he isn't. Kerry has been, and its biting him in the ass
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