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Old 08-24-2004, 03:52 PM   #1
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Default can you be Pro- Hunting if the anti-hunters love you ?

Can you ? Can you be pro-Hunting if every anti-hunting group around supports you ?

Anybody ?

Gobbler ?
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:05 PM   #2
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http://www.presidentmatch.com/Compar...list=5%7C10%7C

Gun Control
Safety Devices on All New Guns : Strongly Favor
Background Checks on Gun Show Purchases : Strongly Favor
Require Safety Course, License Before Gun Purchase : Somewhat Favor s
Allow Lawsuits Against Gun Manufacturers : Somewhat Favor

(Bush is strongly opposed to all of the above)

Does this impact how a person can be pro-Hunting ?
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:11 PM   #3
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http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=S0421103




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2003 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Fund for Animals considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the The Humane Society of the United States considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the American Humane Association considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Animal Protection Institute considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Society for Animal Protective Legislation considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Doris Day Animal League considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Animal Protection Institute considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 89 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 89 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Doris Day Animal League considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 89 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Society for Animal Protective Legislation considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 89 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the Fund for Animals considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 89 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the American Humane Association considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 89 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Based on the votes, and co-sponsorship of legislation the The Humane Society of the United States considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 89 percent of the time.

2000 On the votes that the The Humane Society of the United States considered to be the most important in 2000 , ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2000 On the votes that the Society for Animal Protective Legislation considered to be the most important in 2000, ,Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:12 PM   #4
 
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I dont think so- how can they love you when they hate what you do?
Uneless they know you well enough to look beyond there hunting biases& i dont think pro& antis fall in love to often.
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:13 PM   #5
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http://www.peta.org/news/NewsItem.asp?id=3882

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Milwaukee " Fresh from the campaign trail in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and other early primary states, Chris P. Carrot, PETA"s 7-foot-tall mascot and candidate for president of the United States, will begin making campaign appearances throughout America"s Dairyland"including at rallies held by Sen. John Kerry and Sen. John Edwards. Chris P., along with his running mate Colonel Corn, will be shaking hands, kissing babies, handing out "Eat Me!" buttons, and explaining why he"s the candidate who"s got what it takes to get to the root of America"s problems. Carrot 2004 Campaign Manager Matt Prescott will accompany the presidential hopeful and is available for interviews to discuss the campaign.
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:13 PM   #6
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Bush is not strongly opposed to all of those things.

Safety Devices on All New Guns Bush said Texas will spend about $1 million a year for five years to purchase trigger locks, which would be distributed to citizens who asked for them at police stations and fire departments. "It seems like to me one of the things we ought to do is be common-sensical about how we deal with gun safety," Bush said. "And if I become the president, I"m going to ask Congress to appropriate money for a national program to do just the same thing, which is distribute trigger locks for people to use." Bush proposed that the federal government make $325 million in matching funds available over five years for state and local governments that adopt programs similar to the Texas program. Until recently Bush had opposed mandatory trigger locks and ridiculed rival Sen. John McCain during the South Carolina primary for switching positions on the issue and voting for an amendment to the Senate"s juvenile justice bill that made trigger locks mandatory.
Source: NY Times, page A10, part of "Renewing America"s Purpose" May 13, 2000

Background Checks on Gun Show Purchases :An aide to Bush said the governor has "consistently supported since 1994 the idea of instant background checks at gun shows to make sure the people we don"t want to sell guns to are not buying guns." The aide noted that Bush previously signed legislation prohibiting anyone from carrying a weapon within 300 yards of a school, and holding adults criminally liable if they allow a juvenile access to a loaded gun.
Source: CNN AllPolitics Apr 30, 1999

Gun Control:Bush expressed support for some gun control measures, including the ban on assault weapons and laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of juveniles. But he said he did not believe the waiting period for the purchase of handguns that is part of the Brady Act does much good, saying he prefers instant background checks.
Source: Dan Balz, The Washington Post Apr 25, 1999


Gun control:Bush opposed repeal of the 1994 assault weapon ban and indicated his openness to Clinton"s call to raise the age of legal handgun ownership from 18 to 21. But Bush opposed Clinton"s call for reinstituting 3-day waiting periods for gun purchases, saying he preferred instant background checks. And while he said he could support national legislation to extend such instant checks to purchases at unregulated gun shows, he"s made no effort to support a state bill that would have done just that in Texas.
Source: L.A. Times May 1, 1999

Gun Control: Would sign, but would not push, gun restrictions
Bush has said he would sign a law requiring trigger locks with handgun sales but wouldn"t push such legislation. Bush has endorsed outlawing the import of certain high-capacity ammunition clips. Bush also would raise the legal age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21.
Source: Judy Holland, Hearst Newspapers Apr 14, 2000

Ban automatic weapons & high-capacity ammunition clips
Supports stronger enforcement of existing gun laws, would provide more funding for aggressive gun law enforcement programs such as Project Exile in Richmond, Virginia
Supports requiring instant background checks at gun shows by allowing gun show promoters to access the instant check system on behalf of vendors
Supports law-abiding American"s constitutional right to own guns to protect their families and home
Supports the current ban on automatic weapons
Supports banning the importation of foreign made, "high-capacity" ammunition clips
Supports voluntary safety locks
Opposes government mandated registration of all guns owned by law abiding citizens
Source: GeorgeWBush.com: "Issues: Policy Points Overview" Apr 2, 2000
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:53 PM   #7
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Charlie P., its good to see the truth. Thanks for posting.
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Does this mean the antihunters love bush too? Have never notices that to be the case-
Being a pro hunter i sure wouldnt pick the obvious worse of the 2( kerry) as my choice.
YaYa i know some will do some very odd things in the name of who knows what- poltices?
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:14 PM   #9
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I agree Bush is the better of the two.
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which would be distributed to citizens who asked for them

That doesn't sound mandatory to me


Weren't all those Bush statements and stances before Sept 11?
I don't know if he changed his mind on any of them since then, but Kerry's stances are pretty fresh.


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Background Checks on Gun Show Purchases :An aide to Bush said the governor has "consistently supported since 1994 the idea of instant background checks at gun shows to make sure the people we don"t want to sell guns to are not buying guns." The aide noted that Bush previously signed legislation prohibiting anyone from carrying a weapon within 300 yards of a school, and holding adults criminally liable if they allow a juvenile access to a loaded gun.
Source: CNN AllPolitics Apr 30, 1999
Background Checks at Gun Shows do occur already anyway....The only thing that doesn't require a check(in some states) is a private sale from a guy not in business of selling guns regularly for a living and another private individual. Kinda like the newspaper.


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he"s made no effort to support a state bill that would have done just that in Texas.

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Bush has said he would sign a law requiring trigger locks with handgun sales but wouldn"t push such legislation

It seems to me that Bush is a FAR BETTER CHOICE when it comes to guns.

He's NOT PUSHING ANY Gun Control laws, unlike the Former President and the guy who wants to be the next Democrat President.
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