John O'Neill, co-author of the book, "Unfit for Command" now admits he never even laid eyes on John Kerry in Vietnam. As it turns out, O'Neill was first recruited by President Nixon in 1971 to discredit Kerry, who was then leading veterans opposed to the war! Co-author Jerome Corsi is also uncredible. One example of his many hate spewing statements was expressing his desire that a small plane crash into the set of NBC's "Westwing", killing Martin Sheen.
In the book and in a tv commercial, 13 men who "served" with Kerry assert his war record was a fraud. They say he faked his injuries, shot a teenager in the back, and deserved no medals. The truth is, none of these 13 men ever served with Kerry in Vietnam! They may have been in Vietnam at the same time, but never served with him or under his command! All five men still alive who served under Kerry now support him for President.
Lt. Commander George Elliot, quoted in the commercial as saying Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star has since recanted. In fact, in 1996, Elliot had said," The fact that he chased an armed enemy down is something not to be looked down upon, but it was act of courage."
These false statements with ads may backfire on President Bush. It only invites comparisons to John Kerry's service in the military to Bush's lack of combat experience. Compare the two.................Kerry volunteered for the Navy, for Vietnam and for swift-boat duty..........while Bush, with his father's help ducked the draft by joining the National Guard.
Why am I posting this? Because its important for voters to see the truth. As I have said before in other posts, at this time Bush will get my vote, but this kind of lying will hurt Bush. Thats a shame.
You don't understand or haven't been listening to these men describe how the swiftboats operated. Better look a little deeper into this before you get wrapped up in the Democratic spin on this. The Kerry campaign has not denied any of the claims in the book only trying to discredit everyone who participated. There is about 200 people who contributed to the book compared to Kerry's 5. I wonder really who's lieing. No I don't. I know Kerry's a liar he's been caught numerous ties.Just like he's lieing about being for gun rights and is a hunter( maybe for rich women) The latest lie being Cambodia in 1968. How will you explain that away Cougar?
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www.billpress.com. He is a commentator for MSNBC. Admittedly he is pro Kerry. On the other side of the coin is co-author Corsi, who frequents FreeRepublic.com.
Voters just need the truth. There has been lying by campaign contributors from both sides.
i heard a program on the radio about this, and everyone who was there when Kerry picked that guy outta the water said there was NO INCOMING FIRE, just outgoing. the guy in the water could have easily thought it was incoming. John Kerry ran from teh ambush. kerry is trying to do anything to lie once again. coug, check your source. MSNBC is almsot as liberal as the commie news network.
Reason 1- he acted on intelligence and took out an evil dictator
Reason 2-we are safer than ever..we've killed thousands upon thousands of them. we recently foiled attacks on financial centers. even if the intel is old, our enemies are nto stupid. they will hit us where it will hurt the worst: OUR ECONONMY. 9/11 showed this.
reason 3-9/11 put 3 million americans out of work, not Bush
reason 4-he spent money on defense. kerry will end up spending 2 trillion if his promises are kept. he plans on getting this by taxing hte rich
reason 5- we did what we should have done before. i would rather be safe than go through security checks and have arabs lookedat more closely. racial profiling no matter how un PC works
reason 6-what proof of this?
reason 7-he did what he should have done..you're either with us or against us..snubbing france and germany is great..france is due for another invasion any time now...maybe marines and the 101st?
reason 8- he knows that national forests were set aside so ther would be timber to log in the future.we need to log htem now. we need to drill in ANWR
reason 9-what promises broken?
reason 10-when didnt he tell the truth? john kerry lies about everything
bonus- al gore is a sore loser
HAHA debunked them all...come on libs, take your best shot..frost and world record..its really amazing strut how liberals think huh?
Cougar, I also heard Mr John ONeill clarify for those who assume he claimed to serve with kerry in Nam, that he never did serve with or near kerry.
Words mean things and unless it is your intention to distort the facts why do you use the word admit?
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John O'Neill, co-author of the book, "Unfit for Command" now admits he never even laid eyes on John Kerry in Vietnam.
I recall seeing kerry debate Mr ONeill way back when but you fail to point out that after those debates O'Neill was not active in any anti kerry campiagns.
Further what disqualifies Mr Oneill from doing a book based on interviews with person who were familiar with the actives of kerry in Nam. The perspective of those in the same unit and on other boats that were active and present in the same operations. patrols and fire fights are just as likely to be as credible as kerrys shipmates.
I would have to think, more so know from personal experience, that a person observing an activity while not directly and totally emersed or involved more often has a clearer picture of the entire event than those pre-occupied with staying alive.
I give credit to Kerry for going to Nam and serving in the field for 3 months and one month trianing and I'm sure he saw some action. There is no doubt of that but I also have to believe that some 60 or so other guys who were there are just as credible as kerry and his crew.
Kerry has been caught in lies about the rapes, burning of villages and murders he allegedly saw or took part in, the clear story of what he threw over the fence, medals or ribbons, therefore why should all his war stories be totally believed?
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Now you have to picture a combination of PeeWEE Herman and Wally Cox but with less muscle tone, trying to be intimidating None of this is funny! Message edited by Cougar Mag -- 1/7/2005 1:16:42 AM >/b]
One of the 250 or so Vietnam Vets who oppose Kerry is a man who was the gunners mate for the last two and half months of Kerry's tour on the Swift boat. He was ON the very SAME boat, not another boat in the squadron!! Check out the facts, the man he pulled out of the water was NOT on his Swift boat either. He was on another boat and was knocked into the water when a mine detonated nearby the Swift boat he was on!!
And let's not forget the little facts that Kerry "...had it seared, seared into his very soul the memory of being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve (in one account he gave and Christmas Day in another!!!) of 1968. And he was there only because President Nixon had personally given orders for him to be there. Unfortunately, Mr. Kerry is a very poor student of history. On Christmas Eve/Day, take your choice, of 1968, Mr. Nixon was the President -elect preparing to take office in January 1969. The President on Christmas Eve/Day 1968 was LBJ!!!
Now his political campaign has decided it was actually January of 1969 that he was in Cambodia. The facts? He was NEVER in Cambodia!!! I do believe I will accept the facts as presented in Unfit for Command BEFORE I will accept the facts as presented by Kerry's campaign!!!
"Unfit for Command" and swift boat vets
