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Old 08-14-2004, 05:10 PM   #1
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Default Kerry Takes Aim At Gun Owners

I think that Kerry considers US( me and you) GUN OWNERS AND HUNTERS IDIOTS......


I THINK HE COULD BE RIGHT IN ALOT OF CASES...

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Kerry Sharpens Aim on Gun Vote in Red States
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Commentary
August 12, 2004

Four years after Al Gore alienated gun owners with his tough talk and anti-gun record, this year's Democrat presidential nominee has adopted a new strategy when it comes to firearms. John Kerry is using images to make his case to gun owners.

Before most voters were paying attention to the candidates seeking the Democrat nomination last year, Kerry had reporters and photographers trail him on the plains of central Iowa where they watched him shoot two pheasants.

Ever since that chilly October day, pictures of Kerry in his blaze orange vest with a shotgun in hand have popped up in newspapers and in one of his own campaign ads. Immediately after the hunt, Kerry mailed his supporters the image. Three months later in January, he won the Iowa caucuses.

Potential voters who see the pictures might be left with the impression that the Democrat is a hunting pal of Wayne LaPierre. But the National Rifle Association's executive vice president isn't buying Kerry's use of gun imagery.

While keeping a distance from his 19-year Senate voting record, Kerry is serving as a "poster boy" in a scheme hatched by Americans for Gun Safety (AGS), a group that has encouraged Democrats to tone down their anti-gun rhetoric, LaPierre said.

Recognizing that Gore lost three battleground states in the 2000 race - Arkansas, his home state of Tennessee and West Virginia, each by six or fewer percentage points - in part because he was unable to shed the anti-gun image, AGS and centrist Democrats vowed to reverse course.

Last October, before the first votes were cast, Democrat strategists outlined a softer message for candidates to use. Pollster Mark Penn advised Democrats to support the Second Amendment, while also advocating "closing some gun law loopholes and enforcing the laws on the books."

Americans for Gun Safety adviser Matt Bennett, a former aide to retired Gen. Wesley Clark's campaign, said he's not surprised the NRA has attacked Kerry. Although the NRA hasn't formally endorsed President Bush, it plans to continue running ads this fall highlighting Kerry's anti-gun votes.

"The interesting thing about this race is that John Kerry is no Al Gore on the gun issue," Bennett said. "John Kerry is a gun owner, he's a hunter, he's a good shot, and he's nobody's pushover on gun rights. It's going to be much harder for the NRA to pin that gun-grabber label on John Kerry."

That won't stop the NRA from trying. Spokeswoman Kelly Hobbs said all it takes is a look at Kerry's record to understand his view of the Second Amendment. And as far as the Kerry vs. Gore comparison, Hobbs said this year's Democrat nominee differs greatly.

"He's far worse," Hobbs said of Kerry. "At least Al Gore was up front with gun owners about his support for strict gun control. John Kerry, despite voting against gun owners over 50 times in the Senate, is attempting to conceal his dismal Second Amendment record with a desperate election year ploy."

The NRA is quick to note that despite frequently missing Senate votes from last September to March of this year, Kerry made sure he returned to vote to ban semi-automatic rifles, outlaw gun shows and oppose immunity for the firearms industry from so-called junk lawsuits.

Throughout his career, Kerry has consistently voted 100 percent of the time with the anti-gun Coalition to Stop Gun Violence and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. When he ran for re-election in 2002, the NRA gave him an "F" grade.

But when photos of Kerry and his shotgun show up in newspapers and television commercials, some gun enthusiasts might not recognize the camouflaged Kerry.

"Those kinds of events, while clearly symbolic, are important," Bennett said in defense of Kerry. "They send a signal to gun owners that says, 'Look, I share your values because I am a gun owner. I'm not going to do anything that's going to infringe on the rights of law-abiding citizens to own guns.' "

The tactic is working, according to the Washington Post, which reported Monday that 42 percent of gun owners in the so-called red states believe Kerry would be a less aggressive advocate for gun control. Wins in places like Arkansas, Tennessee and West Virginia might be all Kerry needs to capture the White House.
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Old 08-14-2004, 08:20 PM   #2
 
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You got that right!!!! If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, you can put an orange coat on it, but it will still be a duck!!! John F Kerry IS anti-Second Amendment!!!

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Old 08-15-2004, 04:33 AM   #3
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If it looks like crap, and smells like crap, it is crap! No matter how you camouflage him, Heinz-kerry still stinks!
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Old 08-15-2004, 06:34 AM   #4
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http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/s...rd.php?inds=42

Every gun owner on here needs to let this image burn into your memory, especially just before you enter the voting booth this fall.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/s...rd.php?inds=42

THIS TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT JOHN KERRY AND WHERE HE STANDS ON THE 2ND AMENDMENT.
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Is Kerry really a gun owner or does the family own a shotgun?
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Oldelk, Its been in the attic collecting dust for years and is brought out for press purposes only as needed.

When Kerry stated that 17 out of 39 clays was good shooting I just shook my head in amazement and considered the source.
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Old 08-15-2004, 12:53 PM   #7
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Is Kerry really a gun owner or does the family own a shotgun?
LOL, you reckon that they might be like the SUV's that he rides around in.
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When Kerry stated that 17 out of 39 clays was good shooting I just shook my head in amazement and considered the source.
Christine,

With this kind of logic, it makes one wonder what the good Jr. Senator from Massachusetts means when he says he will balance the budget in 5 years. One also has to wonder what calulator he is using to add up the costs of all of his proposed programs and subtract them from his proposed tax increases. Surprise, surprise if he was actually able to do everything he is proposing, he would INCREASE the deficit, NOT cut it.

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Bill,

My guess is that the calculator he is using has also been gathering lots of dust! How people can actually think/feel that the man makes sense or wants what is best for the US?? When they have followed what his ideas/statements for years also boggles the mind.

To each their own, but I most certainly will not be voteing for the man! As I have stated before in other posts, although most politicians have them....there is an agenda, behind his agenda and it aint the welfare of the USA...... Consider the source.
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What specific Anti-gun Laws or Proposals is Kerry for that GW Bush is Against.

Again ,,, Tell me the Specific laws please.

Both Support the Brady Bill and AWB and Bush supports closing the Gun Show Loophole by requiring instant background checks at Gun Shows - Not currently a law.

I honestly see little difference in these two candidates and consider them both anti-gun.
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