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Old 08-02-2004, 09:00 PM   #1
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.....ap/index.html

Fat activists protest diet industry

NEW YORK (AP) -- Unashamed of their size, fed up with fat jokes, and angry at the national obsession with dieting, overweight activists are mounting a feisty protest movement against what it calls the medical establishment's campaign against obesity.

"We're living in the middle of a witch hunt and fat people are the witches," said Marilyn Wann of San Francisco, a militant member of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance. "It's gotten markedly worse in the last few years because of the propaganda that fatness, a natural human characteristic, is somehow a form of disease."

The association, known as NAAFA, holds its annual convention starting Wednesday in Newark, New Jersey, bringing together activists for social events and workshops on self-acceptance, political advocacy and the "fat liberation" movement.

"I hope we can be a viable force of sanity in the midst of hysteria," said NAAFA spokeswoman Mary Ray Worley of Madison, Wisconsin. "I've found allies in all kinds of unexpected places, but overall there's a lot of animosity. Some people act like obesity is the next worst thing after terrorism."

The convention comes as the movement is scrambling to counter federal government pronouncements that obesity is a "critical public health problem" costing more than $100 billion and 300,000 lives per year.

Jeannie Moloo, an American Dietetic Association spokeswoman who counsels overweight clients at her nutrition practice in Sacramento, California, empathizes with the activists' fight against bias, but says they should be wary of oversimplifying obesity-related health issues.

"Some people can be overweight all their lives and not end up with diabetes or heart disease or hypertension," Moloo said. "But the majority are probably going to develop one of these life-altering conditions."

Fat-acceptance groups were dismayed when federal officials announced last month that Medicare was discarding its declaration that obesity isn't a disease. The policy change will likely prompt overweight Americans covered by Medicare to file medical claims for treatments such as stomach surgery and diet programs.

"Obesity is not a disease," insisted Allen Steadham, director of the Austin, Texas-based International Size Acceptance Association. "All this does is open the door for the diet and bariatric surgery industries to make a potentially tremendous profit."

Most fat-acceptance activists endorse the concept of eating healthy food and exercising regularly, but they oppose any fixation on losing weight and contend that more than 95 percent of diets fail. They also decry the rapid growth of stomach-shrinking surgery; the number of such procedures has quadrupled to 100,000 annually since 1998.

Wann depicts bariatric surgery as "stomach amputation" that imposes anorexia on patients and exposes them to long-term risks. Kelly Bliss, a self-described "full-figured fitness instructor" from Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, predicts that future generations will disapprovingly look back on stomach surgery as "comparable to lobotomies."

Bliss, who coaches clients by phone and in fitness classes, subscribes to a philosophy called "health at every size" -- preaching that health, fitness and self-esteem can be achieved independent of weight.

"There's a war on obese people, and I'm treating the casualties - people whose hearts are being ripped out," Bliss said.

NAAFA and others have tried to combat what they see as rampant discrimination against fat people, but progress has been sporadic. Southwest Airlines, for example, resisted protests targeting its policy of requiring large passengers to purchase a second ticket if they can't fit in a single seat.

"People want to fight for their rights, but there's a lot of shame involved," Steadham said. "It takes a whole lot of determination to stick through it to the end."

A few cities, including San Francisco, explicitly outlaw weight discrimination. Michigan is the only state to do so, but its Civil Rights Department said only five of 1,696 job discrimination complaints filed in 2003 involved weight.

Walter Lindstrom, a San Diego attorney specializing in weight-discrimination cases, said overweight plaintiffs usually must prove that acts of bias against them are covered by federal laws prohibiting discrimination against disabled people.

"These cases are more difficult from a proof standpoint, and also because you're dealing with a very unpopular class of clients," Lindstrom said. "Juries are generally disgusted with your average size-related plaintiff. You have to get past that, and have them see the plaintiff as someone with a true medical problem."

Many fat-acceptance activists were heartened by this year's publication of "The Obesity Myth" by University of Colorado law professor Paul Campos, who contends that diet promoters, drug companies and weight-loss surgeons have whipped up an irrational panic over weight.

Campos shares many of the activists' views but says their effectiveness has been limited.

"The movement has found itself marginalized by drawing its membership and leadership from the far extreme of obesity," he said. "It will be more successful if it can attract the two-thirds of Americans who are being told by the government that they weigh too much -- the I-want-to-lose-20-pounds crowd who are starting to feel a certain amount of resentment from the constant haranguing they're getting."

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Do I sense a new minority group forming in this country ? Maybe Miss Fat America or Fat History Month ?

BTW - I DO agree. ..... fatness is not a disease
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:52 PM   #2
 
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im speechless i mean they make it sound like someone is forced to feed them BIG MACS and SUPER-SIZED fries.... like john stossel says ......

GIMME A BREAK!
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Old 08-03-2004, 05:47 AM   #3
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What a crock !
I know exactly why I'm fat , I'm a slug and I don't pull my head out of the trough often enough . Do I accept being fat ? Hell no , I think it sux ! I have slowly begun doing something about it though , which is more than most overweight folks can say .

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If they endorse healthy eating and excercise then why are they approaching maximum density ? No , 95% of diets don't fail , 95% of dieters fail . I get so sick of hearing this BS , get your head out of the trough and excercise ! If I can begin to drag my lard bucket down to the river for some kayaking then so can they . Obesity as a true disease condition is rare , I've only met two people who were medically diagnosed as such , both had glandular abnormalities .
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Since I was once "Morbidly Obese" I'll offer my opine here. Fat people don't want to be fat....it kills the self esteem and you're constantly being degraded. I didn't ever want to weigh 320lbs, but I got there by not excercising and stuffing my face any chance I could get. I woke up one day and decided it wasn't going to fix itself....I had to do somehting....I was sick and tired of being fat. I started excercising and eating differently....here I am 70lbs lighter and still losing wieght. Eventually I'll get down to that 180lbs that I should be at 5'-9". Making excuses isn't going to help....just get off your oversized duff and do something....and when you're done have a glass or two of water, not pop, eat a good meal, but keep the portions as they were intended. You'd be amazed how much weight you can lose if you try.

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And we have a winner !!!!!!!!
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I was 315lbs in college ( football ) and have lost 75 of it in the few years I've been done. Not a ton of exercise or fad diets , just watched what I ate and it came off. What I cant stand is these people that go have their stomachs stapled because they just cant do it by themselves ....bullsh**t , their just lazy. If the dem's in the gov had there way , as I think medicaide will cover obesity soon , I'll be footing part of the bill for some lazy a$$ who cant get off the sofa to exercise. Not making fun as I was a big em myself , but it seems that todays society wants to blame some else for their problems. The world owes no one anything !
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Jason N, Slugman, my hat is off to ya'll for taking charge of your eating habits and exercise. It is not easy and I commend you for just taking responsibility.......that's all this really comes down to IMO.
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Jason N, Slugman, my hat is off to ya'll for taking charge of your eating habits and exercise. It is not easy and I commend you for just taking responsibility.......that's all this really comes down to IMO.
Thanks, not necessary, but thanks. I agree with you 100%.

Honestly my love of bowhunting has been my biggest drive to shed the pounds. I couldn't hike the hills without just about collapsing, I had no business being in a treestand....especially one rated at 300lbs, I'd sweat like mad just walking to my stand on flat ground, I would only scout easy access areas because 1) I couldn't take the hike 2) I didn't want to go down into the valley or up the hill(read lazy/uncomfortable) and 3) my knees and ankles would throb after a short duration hiking. I got sick of it and decided I didn't want to be like that anymore. I shed most of the wieght through winter and spring by ice fishing(Kinzua Reservoir is big and walking miles to a destination is a must sometimes) and late winter scouting. My knees and ankles don't hurt anymore, I can climb hills without nearly as much taxing breathing and I all around feel better. I figured if I didn't do something soon I wasn't going to see many more days hunting. I was becoming very disappointed in my outings and felt like hanging it up....all because I was too fat to love what I was doing....it was like a bad job. Thankfully, I'm young yet and don't have any health problems....sure was on my way to a bunch though. With Diabetes and heart problems running in my family chances of having problems are bad enough....the extra weight certainly was speeding up the process. I'm proud of myself for taking the initiative and doing something about my problems. I didn't use any drugs or artificial treatments.....just diet and excercise....the mild depression I was suffering seems to disappear with the weight.
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Honestly my love of bowhunting has been my biggest drive to shed the pounds. I couldn't hike the hills without just about collapsing, I had no business being in a treestand....
Love of hunting was what spurred me on to quit smoking and start up with the kayak . It just got harder and harder to climb the hills where I hunt . BTW , our region is called The Knobs" for a reason .
Good job Jason !
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Just give them some food and they'll go away. Slowly but go they will.
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