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Old 07-27-2004, 10:51 AM   #1
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I heard about this on the radio this morning, and I still don't know why anyone is doing it.

Role-Reversal in Planned Slavery Reenactment in Annapolis

Apparently this group Lifeline Expedition wants to heal the past wounds of slavery and move toward the future, as they would put it. As Europeans, I don't understand what motivates them, but frankly I don't want them here performing this kind of odd act. I just can't see how having a bunch of foreigners stir the pot will help Americans come to terms with slavery.

The Lifeline Expedition

Again, I don't see how these Brits have any authority to ask Americans to apologize for slavery (we were once British colonies, were we not?). I don't want anyone asking me to apologize, let alone non-Americans. The NAACP and other Black-American groups have done plenty to highlight past injustices, and I think they are the ones who have good reason to do so.

Am I just being insensitive? Thoughts?
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:45 AM   #2
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My family didn't arrive here from Germany until 1865 , and never owned slaves . I don't have anything to apologize for , nor would I apologize for something that happened over 100 years before I was born .

This is almost as stupid as the group that recently lobbied Congress for reparations for their ancestors being enslaved . Their ancestors got 40 acres and a mule as they were promised during the Reconstruction , no further reparations are due .
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I fully agree with both of you.

If they would tend to their business it would be a full time job.
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My family didn't arrive here from Germany until 1865 , and never owned slaves . I don't have anything to apologize for , nor would I apologize for something that happened over 100 years before I was born .

This is almost as stupid as the group that recently lobbied Congress for reparations for their ancestors being enslaved . Their ancestors got 40 acres and a mule as they were promised during the Reconstruction , no further reparations are due .
If your family arrived from Germany in 1865, then the life they escaped was little better than slavery anyway unless they were from the middle or upper classes. Many immigrants of that era, not only from Germany but from most of the European countries, were from the lower classes and were considered no better than property of the land owners and nobility of the region.
Slavery has a long history that only culminated with the wholesale movement of Africans from their native continent to many places in the world, not just North America as many would like us to believe. The Nordic Vikings would make a sweep through the "Slavic" (meaning slave) countries on their way to Constantinople (modern day Turkey) to turn a tidy profit in human flesh. The Sultans of the Islamic states had a constant demand for slaves to serve them and their courts in every capacity imaginable. Eunichs were in high demand to serve the harems of the wealthy, it is said that the streets of one African coastal city in particular (I can't remember the name at the moment) were lined with the dying young men that had been crudely castrated by the Arab slave traders trying to make a living.
Why the U.S.A. has been singled out for reprobation amongst all of the countries in the world is beyond me since all of them contributed to the slave trade and many of them long after the U.S. prohibited the slave trade. In Africa and a number of Eastern European countries today the slave trade continues unabated. From the Sudan in Africa to the sexual slave trade in Bulgaria and other countries in Europe not a word is said. Those condemning us here in the U.S. I say go to hell.
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:28 AM   #5
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Did they ever get this? I thiought they didn't.
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:33 AM   #6
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On this day in 1865, in the midst of his 'March to the Sea' during the Civil War, General William T. Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton met with 20 Black community leaders of Savannah, Georgia. Based in part to their input, Gen. Sherman issued Special Field Order #15 on January 16, 1865, setting aside the Sea Islands and a 30 mile inland tract of land along the southern coast of Charleston for the exclusive settlement of Blacks. Each family would receive 40 acres of land and an army mule to work the land, thus "forty acres and a mule." Gen. Rufus Saxton was assigned by Sherman to implement the Order. On a national level, this and other land, confiscated and abandoned, became the jurisdiction of the Freedman's Bureau, which was headed by Gen. Oliver Otis Howard (Howard University).

In his words he wanted to "...give the freedmen protection, land and schools as far and as fast as he can." However, during the summer and fall of 1865, President Johnson issued special pardons, returning the property to the ex-Confederates. Howard issued Circular 13, giving 40 acres as quickly as possible. Upon his knowledge, Johnson ordered Howard to issue Circular 15, returning the land to the ex-Confederates.

It appears they never got their 40 acres and a mule Keven1 does this mean your in favor of reparations?
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:18 AM   #7
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It appears they never got their 40 acres and a mule Keven1 does this mean your in favor of reparations?
If they still want 40 acres and a mule , sure .
The proposed "reparations" would have bankrupted the country in the recent attempt . Personally , while I'm truly sorry for those who were enslaved , I feel nothing for their greedy decendants . All of that crap ended over 100 years ago , it should die a peaceful death so that we can all move on .
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Old 07-28-2004, 08:59 AM   #8
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Yoo know how much 4o acres on one of those islands is worth.
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Deal is a Deal and yes Charlie I can imagine what One acre on those islands is worth never mind 40.
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Yoo know how much 4o acres on one of those islands is worth.
I have a fair idea what acreage is worth there now , and if those who were originally promised the land want to claim it then I'm fine with that ...
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