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Old 07-16-2004, 10:59 AM   #1
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.....ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Medicare now recognizes obesity as an illness, a change in policy that may allow millions of overweight Americans to make medical claims for treatments such as stomach surgery and diet programs.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said, "Obesity is a critical public health problem in our country that causes millions of Americans to suffer unnecessary health problems and to die prematurely."

Treating obesity-related illnesses results in billions of dollars in health care costs, Thompson said.

"With this new policy, Medicare will be able to review scientific evidence in order to determine which interventions improve health outcomes for seniors and disabled Americans who are obese," Thompson told a Senate panel on Thursday.

With the removal of language in Medicare policy that said obesity is not an illness, beneficiaries will be able to request a government review of medical evidence to determine whether certain treatments for obesity can be covered.

Though Medicare and Medicaid programs cover sicknesses caused by obesity -- including type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, several types of cancer and gallbladder disease -- the previous policy meant that weight-loss therapies have often been denied coverage.

"The medical science will now determine whether we provide coverage for the treatments that reduce complications and improve quality of life for the millions of Medicare beneficiaries who are obese," said Mark McClellan, administrator of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversees health insurance programs for the elderly, disabled and poor.

Some detractors of the change said it is based on unsound science.

"We have a tremendously exaggerated fear of higher than average weight in this culture," said University of Colorado law professor Paul Campos, author of "The Obesity Myth."

"What's partly baseless is this notion that the government needs to intervene to make Americans thinner," Campos said.

HHS said the policy change is not expected to immediately alter Medicare coverage, and no figures were provided on potential costs to taxpayers. The Medicare agency said it may meet this fall to review scientific evidence on various surgical procedures related to obesity.

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OH PLEASE !!! Obesity is NOT a disease for 99% of those who are overweight - its a result of CHOICE to not stay healthy, plain and simple. Now I will agree some people have disorders that cause their weight gain, but thats a direct result of disease, NOT simple laziness and overeating.

This is a trevesty and a mockery !
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im with u all the way stealthy...it IS a travesty, a sham and a mockery.........its a travestshamockery!!![:'(][:@]
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:10 AM   #3
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I thought it was about you thinking Jacko was innocent.[8D]
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:22 AM   #4
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This is a huge crock of BS! I heard about this on the radio coming into work this morning, and I was ticked off I almost had to pull over. Yep, fat people are victims, and Big Brother is here to help protect them. Flippin' idiots! [:@][:'(]

The radio host also made a good point--take a look at most professional atheletes. They would certainly fit in the "obese" category. The same is true for a lot of healthy people who simply put on weight by exercise and conditioning.
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:26 AM   #5
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This is one topic I hold a high prejudice on. It doesn't speak well of me but I can't stand to see grossly obese people who can not hold up their own weight travel around on buggies loading their carts up with junk. I don't want to pay for their ill choices. I don't want to see it.

I get that it can be easy in our society to take the easy way out and eat with abandon, not exercise and then whine and complain. It breaks my heart to see young children obese and not being taught any better.

There for the grace of God go I. If I ever let myself go like that I hope someone takes me out and shoots me.
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Hmmm, didn't we have this discussion a while back about somebody not liking certain people in the same vein ???? Hmmmmm
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Doctor.... I am feeling sick......I can't stop my hand from stuffing dingdongs down my throat!

When did we lose personal responsibility and accountability? Its turning into the "American Way" unfortunately.
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Doctor.... I am feeling sick......I can't stop my hand from stuffing dingdongs down my throat!

When did we lose personal responsibility and accountability? Its turning into the "American Way" unfortunately.
No, it's the "European Way". The part of America who don't want to earn their keep are looking to install a european-style cradle-to-grave welfare system. Sit back, relax, and let the government solve all your problems.
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Old 07-16-2004, 10:38 PM   #9
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obesity a illness?

No i realy dont thank so.

But then lets see is being a drunk one?
how about a dope feind?

There are a lot of helth problems that are cauesd by lack of persional responcibilty.
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When we started voting in Liberals[:@]
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