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Old 06-04-2004, 07:05 AM   #1
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George W. Bush on Gun Control
http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Geor...un_Control.htm


If gun laws are broken, hold people accountable
Q: Do you support the Brady Bill?
BUSH: Law-abiding citizens ought to be allowed to protect their families. We ought to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn"t have them. That"s why I"m for instant background checks at gun shows. I"m for trigger locks. I think we ought to raise the age at which juveniles can have a gun. I also believe that the best way to make sure that we keep our society safe is to hold people accountable for breaking the law. If we catch somebody illegally selling a gun, there needs to be a consequence. The federal government can help.

GORE: All my proposals are focused on that problem: gun safety. None of my proposals would have any effect on hunters or sportsmen or people who use rifles. They"re aimed at the real problem. Let"s have a three-day waiting period, A cooling off, so we can have a background check to make sure that criminals and people who really shouldn"t have guns don"t get them.

Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17, 2000

First, enforce the law; then keep guns from wrong people
It starts with enforcing the law. We need to say loud and clear to somebody, if you"re going to carry a gun illegally, we"re going to arrest you, if you"re going to sell a gun illegally you need to be arrested, and if you commit a crime with a gun there needs to be absolutely certainty in the law. The local law enforcement officials need help at the federal level. Need programs like Project Exile, where the federal government intensifies arresting people who illegally use guns. And we haven"t done a very good job of that at the federal level recently. And I"m going to make it a priority.
Secondly, I don"t think we ought to be selling guns to people who shouldn"t have them. That"s why I support instant background checks at gun shows. There"s a lot of talk about trigger locks being on guns sold in the future, I support that, and so we"re distributing them in our state of Texas for free. I think we ought to raise the age at which a juvenile can carry a handgun from 18 to 21.

Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

Restrict lawsuits against gun makers
If the NRA could pick a candidate, it would undoubtedly be George W. Bush. He has been a strong ally of the organization in Texas. Recent attempts to distance himself are assumed to be merely tactical. Bush follows the standard gun-owner"s line: he wants tougher penalties against gun-toting criminals, but no more regulations for worthy citizens with a pistol by the bed. He places the blame for America"s frequent gun massacres on negligent parents, a "wave of evil" and the culture of violence. As president, he would:
would bring in no new gun controls, except possibly tougher penalties for criminals using guns
opposes mandatory safety locks (but supports voluntary ones)
supports concealed-weapon laws
favors instant background checks (rather than three-day waiting periods) in shops and at gun shows
would restrict lawsuits against gun makers, which he has deterred in Texas
Source: The Economist, "Issues 2000" special Sep 30, 2000

Government should pay for voluntary trigger locks
Bush said Texas will spend about $1 million a year for five years to purchase trigger locks, which would be distributed to citizens who asked for them at police stations and fire departments. "It seems like to me one of the things we ought to do is be common-sensical about how we deal with gun safety," Bush said. "And if I become the president, I"m going to ask Congress to appropriate money for a national program to do just the same thing, which is distribute trigger locks for people to use." Bush proposed that the federal government make $325 million in matching funds available over five years for state and local governments that adopt programs similar to the Texas program. Until recently Bush had opposed mandatory trigger locks and ridiculed rival Sen. John McCain during the South Carolina primary for switching positions on the issue and voting for an amendment to the Senate"s juvenile justice bill that made trigger locks mandatory.
Source: NY Times, page A10, part of "Renewing America"s Purpose" May 13, 2000

Project Sentry: juvenile gun laws & school accountability
Bush will establish "Project Sentry" to enforce federal juvenile gun laws; and impose a lifetime ban on gun possession for juvenile offenders. Bush will also hold states and districts accountable for improving school safety; require states and districts to provide students in persistently dangerous schools a transfer to a safe alternative; call for a uniform reporting system to allow parents to know which schools are safe.
Source: Press Release, Temple TX Apr 20, 2000

Avoid Columbine via gun control, values & character ed
Saying America is "still wrestling with the lessons of Columbine," Bush today called for tougher enforcement of gun laws and a greater emphasis on character education as the way to promote school safety. "Today is the sad anniversary of a terrible tragedy-a tragedy that shattered our sense of safety and security-a tragedy that hit home for every parent and every child and every school in America," Bush said. "A year later, America is still wrestling with the lessons of Columbine," Bush continued. "Strict enforcement of tough laws is important. But ultimately, the safety of our children depends on more than laws. It depends on the values we teach them and the kind of culture we create and condone."
Governor Bush has proposed a series of proposals to reduce school violence in his campaign, including:
Promoting character education in public schools.
Enforcing gun laws and holding states & schools accountable for keeping students safe.
Source: Press Release, Temple TX Apr 20, 2000

Would sign, but would not push, gun restrictions
Bush has said he would sign a law requiring trigger locks with handgun sales but wouldn"t push such legislation. Bush has endorsed outlawing the import of certain high-capacity ammunition clips. Bush also would raise the legal age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21.
Source: Judy Holland, Hearst Newspapers Apr 14, 2000

Ban automatic weapons & high-capacity ammunition clips
Supports stronger enforcement of existing gun laws, would provide more funding for aggressive gun law enforcement programs such as Project Exile in Richmond, Virginia
Supports requiring instant background checks at gun shows by allowing gun show promoters to access the instant check system on behalf of vendors
Supports law-abiding American"s constitutional right to own guns to protect their families and home
Supports the current ban on automatic weapons
Supports banning the importation of foreign made, "high-capacity" ammunition clips
Supports voluntary safety locks
Opposes government mandated registration of all guns owned by law abiding citizens
Source: GeorgeWBush.com: "Issues: Policy Points Overview" Apr 2, 2000

More laws & enforcement on juveniles with guns
Supports automatic detention for kids who commit crimes with guns
Supports banning juveniles from possession of semi-automatic "assault" weapons
Supports increasing the minimum age for possession of a handgun from 18 to 21
Source: GeorgeWBush.com: "Issues: Policy Points Overview" Apr 2, 2000

Best gun control is more prosecution & certain jail
Q: You are in favor of some gun controls?
A: I"m in favor of keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn"t have them like felons & juveniles. I"m for enforcing the laws on the books. In Texas, we"ve armed D.A."s with extra money to prosecute people who break the law. We need to send a signal to people, don"t be illegally selling guns and don"t be illegally using guns. The best accountability for somebody who breaks the law with a gun is called jail, certain jail.
Source: Des Moines Iowa GOP Debate Dec 13, 1999

Supports gun ownership for protection and hunting
I believe law-abiding citizens should be allowed to own guns to hunt and to protect themselves. and that our government should aggressively pursue. people who illegally sell guns, illegally carry guns, or commit crimes with guns. I also believe that government should pass laws such as instant background checks to help keep guns out of the hands of felons and juveniles and others who should not have them.
Source: "A Charge to Keep", p. 35-36. Dec 9, 1999

Raise legal age for guns to 21; ban certain ammo
Bush said he supported efforts in the Republican-led Congress to raise the legal age for purchase of a handgun to 21 from 18 and to ban large ammunition clips.
Source: Reuters, "Bush favors raising." Aug 27, 1999

No child-safety locks on guns; concealed carrying ok
Bush opposes mandatory child-safety locks on guns & supports the right of Texans to carry a concealed weapon. The Governor recently signed into law a bill that requires a locality to get approval from the state legislature before suing gun manufacturers. Bush supporters argue that the act does not interfere with legitimate gun lawsuits but rather curbs trivial legal action.
Source: Time Magazine, p. 38 Jun 28, 1999

Arrest for guns in school; track juvenile offenders
Bush"s 1999 legislative record included:
Required automatic detention [until released by a judge"s order] for juveniles who carry firearms illegally or commit crimes with a gun.
Expanded beds for housing violent juvenile offenders.
Created a spotlight program to team police with probation officers to track violent juvenile offenders.
Source: GeorgeWBush.com/News/ "1999 Texas Legislative Record" Jun 25, 1999

No city lawsuits against gun manufacturers
Gov. Bush signed a bill that would prevent cities, counties & local governments from suing firearm and ammunition manufacturers for the public costs associated with gun violence. The legislation is commonly referred to as a "lawsuit preemption bill." According to a spokesperson, Bush supports the bill because he believes that "in order to curb frivolous lawsuits, the attorney general should be the clearinghouse to review issues involving a legal product which is being misused for criminal purposes."
Source: CNN.com/AllPolitics "Bush quietly signs" Jun 18, 1999

Gun restrictions OK within basic right to own guns
Bush opposed repeal of the 1994 assault weapon ban and indicated his openness to Clinton"s call to raise the age of legal handgun ownership from 18 to 21. But Bush opposed Clinton"s call for reinstituting 3-day waiting periods for gun purchases, saying he preferred instant background checks. And while he said he could support national legislation to extend such instant checks to purchases at unregulated gun shows, he"s made no effort to support a state bill that would have done just that in Texas.
Source: L.A. Times May 1, 1999

Gun show checks OK; ban guns near schools & kids
An aide to Bush said the governor has "consistently supported since 1994 the idea of instant background checks at gun shows to make sure the people we don"t want to sell guns to are not buying guns." The aide noted that Bush previously signed legislation prohibiting anyone from carrying a weapon within 300 yards of a school, and holding adults criminally liable if they allow a juvenile access to a loaded gun.
Source: CNN AllPolitics Apr 30, 1999

Assault weapon OK; waiting period not OK
Bush expressed support for some gun control measures, including the ban on assault weapons and laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of juveniles. But he said he did not believe the waiting period for the purchase of handguns that is part of the Brady Act does much good, saying he prefers instant background checks.
Source: Dan Balz, The Washington Post Apr 25, 1999
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Old 06-04-2004, 07:06 AM   #2
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quote]Supports the Brady Bill & Mandatory Background Checks [/quote]So does GWB

Gun show loophole-President Bush says he supports background checks at gun shows, but remains opposed to allowing three days for the checks.
During the presidential campaign, President Bush stated that he would support background checks at guns shows, but only if the results could be returned instantly. Depending on the completeness of state criminal history databases, results of Brady background checks currently take from a few minutes to a few days.

Last year, a similar bill died in Congress.

On Monday, Bush unveiled his two year plan to combat gun violence by providing $550 million to boost the enforcement of current gun laws. McCain said he "strongly" supports Bush's strategy.

Voted to Ban Military-Style Assault Weapons in the United States -The White House has said Bush would sign an extension of the ban if it were put before him by Congress, but he has not actively pushed for it.

President Bush has repeatedly pledged his support for the assault weapons ban. During the 2000 campaign, George W. Bush said "It makes no sense for assault weapons to be around our society." As recently as February 23, 2004, White House spokesperson Claire Buchan said "[w]ith regard to the assault weapons ban, [President Bush] supports the extension of the current ban."

Gun locks-Bush said Texas will spend about $1 million a year for five years to purchase trigger locks, which would be distributed to citizens who asked for them at police stations and fire departments. "It seems like to me one of the things we ought to do is be common-sensical about how we deal with gun safety," Bush said. "And if I become the president, I"m going to ask Congress to appropriate money for a national program to do just the same thing, which is distribute trigger locks for people to use." Bush proposed that the federal government make $325 million in matching funds available over five years for state and local governments that adopt programs similar to the Texas program. Until recently Bush had opposed mandatory trigger locks and ridiculed rival Sen. John McCain during the South Carolina primary for switching positions on the issue and voting for an amendment to the Senate"s juvenile justice bill that made trigger locks mandatory.

This March 3, 2000, Washington Times article reports on the 6-year old shooting, "The next day, Texas Gov. George W. Bush said he would sign a law requiring trigger locks with the sale of handguns--what appeared to be a flip from his position that such locks should be voluntary. "I have no problem with selling trigger locks with guns," Bush said at a news conference in Atlanta on Wednesday. "But my question is: How do you enforce it? How do you make sure parents keep the trigger lock on the gun?"
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Old 06-04-2004, 07:12 AM   #3
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AHHHH My Little Bush Basher Rides Again!!!

Nice Try Chuck!

This is all old news, you continue to NOT find us a anti-gun bill with GW's signature on it.
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Old 06-04-2004, 07:15 AM   #4
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Just being balenced. No bill because he hasn't had it hit his desk. I know it's all lip service. Lip service since he was the Govenor of Texas.
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Old 06-04-2004, 07:16 AM   #5
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You keep saying he has so much integrity and is a man of his word, why should we doubt his words now?

If this is just "lip service" what other promises he makes just "lip service"?

How am I bashing Bush by posting things he has said?
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How am I bashing Bush by posting things he has said?

Because you give the way more anti-gun John Kerry a pass.

Why don't you post some of the things Kerry says about the Second Amendment?
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The legal age to buy a handgun here in CA is 21...
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Old 06-06-2004, 09:15 AM   #8
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Why don't you post some of the things Kerry says about the Second Amendment?
Because he's so obviously against it and you do a great job at doing that F4YG. Atta boy F4YG's Noone has said Kerry is for the second Amendement,but alot of people don't understand the "lip Service" GWB is giving the liberals an anti second Amendment people.

I know you or is it "we" have their crystal balls working on this issue, and can tell he won't sign some thing he said he will, but I'm not a psychic.
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I know you or is it "we" have their crystal balls working on this issue, and can tell he won't sign some thing he said he will, but I'm not a psychic.

I won't condemn someone for a crime yet to be committed! I guess you too have a looking glass and see this bill already being signed? If you want to hang someone for a crime he didn't commit. I guess you'll have to live with that! Again if he does sign the AW bill I'll stand right with you and condemn him, but not before!
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:22 PM   #10
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No I'm just going by the word of a man,who is a man of his word. He's done everything else he's promised why not this?? Answer this please! Why shouldn't we believe his words???

Would you speak out or try and stop a man that said he was going to commit a crime or stand by and wait for him to do it? T
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