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Kerry Stances on Guns

Supports the Brady Bill & Mandatory Background Checks " John Kerry strongly supported passage of the Brady bill which required mandatory waiting periods and background checks to ensure criminals and the mentally disabled did not receive illegal access to guns. Kerry actively worked for passage of the Brady legislation in the Senate in 1993. The Brady law "has prevented almost 700,000 felons, fugitives and mentally ill people from purchasing guns." Kerry"s strong support for gun safety won him the 1990 endorsement of Sarah Brady, wife of former Reagan press secretary James Brady--who was severely injured in the 1981 assassination attempt of Ronald Reagan and for whom the Brady bill is named. [Senate Roll Call vote, 1993 #394; New York Times, 12/9/90; ABC News, 20/20 3/22/02]

Will Work to Close the "Gun Show Loophole" " John Kerry opposes the loophole which allows violent criminals to purchase guns at gun shows. Under the current loophole, unlicensed gun sellers are not required to perform a criminal background check on potential buyers at gun shows--and this allows guns to fall into the hands of felons, stalkers and violent juveniles. Kerry has voted to close the gun show loophole and will continue to work to keep guns out of the hands of those who are not legally allowed to have them. Of closing the loophole, Kerry said, "These are modest and sensible measures that will keep guns out of the hands of children and criminals. Opposition to such reasonable proposals is explained more by politics than by sound policy considerations." [Senate Roll Call vote, 1999 # 134; Patriot Ledger, 5/21/99]

Voted to Ban Military-Style Assault Weapons in the United States " John Kerry strongly supports the current ban on assault weapons and voted to restrict the manufacturing, transfer or possession of these weapons in the United States"including AK-47"s and similar weapons used by terrorists in Afghanistan. Kerry voted for the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act" which banned military-style assault weapons. Additionally, the ban on assault weapons was supported by virtually every national law enforcement organization in the United States. [Senate Roll Call vote, 1993 #375; BradyCampaign.org]


Working to Make Gun Locks Mandatory & Prevent Child Access to Guns " John Kerry has worked to ensure that gun safety devices are readily available, sold with every gun and achieve their goal of keeping children from firing them. Kerry authored the bipartisan "Gun Lock Consumer Protection Act" to make sure "child safety devices for handguns" meet the stringent requirements for which they were intended. Additionally, Kerry voted for strong requirements for gun locks including that they be sold with every gun in the United States. Kerry also voted to increase penalties for people who allow children access to firearms. Regarding John Kerry"s gun lock provision, Senator Mike DeWine (R-OH) said, "As more and more gun owners and lawmakers respond to the relationship between children and loaded, accessible firearms, by purchasing and requiring firearm safety devices it is essential that we ensure safety devices fulfill their intended purposes. Gun safety devices that not work should not be on store shelves. Common-sense standards for firearm safety devices will provide peace of mind for parents and prevent accidental shoot tragedies in homes." [107th Congress, S.416; Senate Roll Call votes 1998 #215, #216, #224; Office of Senator DeWine, Press Release, 3/1/01]

Voted to End Unlicensed Sale of Guns on the Internet " John Kerry voted to end the unlicensed sale of guns over the Internet. Kerry voted to force websites which are clearly designed to sell guns to be federally licensed and compliant with all related firearm laws. Often times, criminals and others not legally allowed to purchase guns will use the Internet and these websites to by-pass federal gun laws. [Senate Roll Call vote, #119]

A Leader in Banning "Cop-Killer" Bullets & Large Capacity Clips " John Kerry is a national leader in promoting sensible oversight of ammunition sales and favors banning large-capacity ammunition clips which have no sporting value yet risk the lives of police officers and average people from the criminals that wish them harm. Kerry is the author of the "Ammunition Safety Act" which sought to allow for greater scrutiny of ammunition dealers and cracked down on armor-piecing, "Cop-Killer" bullets. Kerry also voted to ban large capacity ammunition clips and voted to protect these military-style weapons which are only meant to kill people. [105th Congress, S. 533; 104th Congress, S. 433; Senate Roll Call vote 1998 #24; 1999, #116]

On the Record for Sensible Gun Safety
Supports Legal Gun Ownership - "I'm a gun owner. I'm a hunter. I've hunted since I was a kid." [Metro West Daily News, 7/14/03]


Prepared to Defend Common Sense Gun Laws " "I'm a hunter. I enjoy going hunting. I'm prepared to stand up and defend common sense on guns, common sense." [ABC News, This Week, 11/10/02]


Denounces Those Who Think AK-47"s are for Hunting " "Kerry talked about how he was hunting at the age of 8 or 9, when he went to his cousins' Massachusetts farm to shoot woodchucks. While he supports background checks and a ban on assault weapons, he said, "I never contemplated hunting deer or anything else with an AK-47," Kerry said. [Hartford Courant, 7/9/03]


Unlike Bush, Supports a "Real" Gun Safety Locks Measure " John Kerry, "in a legislative move that could trip up [then Governor] Bush, yesterday launched a bill aimed at tightening federal standards for gun safety locks. "George Bush is running around saying down in Texas he's giving away all these free gun locks, but will they work?...There are no standards for gun locks." Despite their growing popularity, gun locks are not subject to even minimal safety standards - and many of them can easily be broken into, Kerry said. "Some kids can beat these locks with screwdrivers," said Kerry, "It's pretty scary." [Boston Herald, 6/29/00]


Cracks Down on Unlicensed Ammunition Dealers & "Cop-Killer" Bullets - John Kerry "has introduced a bill (S. 533) that would subject ammunition dealers to the same licensing requirements as firearms dealers. S. 533 would also apply the Brady bill's background check requirements to ammunition. Under the bill, the Secretary of the Treasury would be required to test and rate the destructive power of projectiles to clearly define and ban armor-piercing ammunition. [Security Management, 8/97]


Kerry"s Sensible Gun Safety Laws Do Not Include a Ban On Guns " When asked if his position on gun safety included banning the sale and ownership of guns"an unrealistic and virtually impossible idea, John Kerry responded with his common sense goal for America: "No, I wouldn't do that. I don't think it's enforceable to begin with, and I believe that we have a strong second-amendment-belief structure in America. It's not going to change. What could change"is the responsibility with which we handle them and approach guns." [CNN, Evans, Novak, Hunt & Shields, 5/15/99]


Senate Floor Statements:
On Gun Violence
"We see a country where, literally, far too many of our kids are carrying guns to school instead of lunch boxes"We have always had poverty in the United States of America and we have always had violent crime"We have never seen children talk matter-of-factly about blowing each other away or about living in a world where guns are as common as water. Or about going to bed at night with the notion they may not get up the next day except to face a hail of bullets." - Floor Statement, November 4, 1993


"No wonder people in this country are fed up with Washington. They are fed up because they understand what they want done. And instead, we get things being labeled, and gamy little political phrases thrown around. And, in the end, what happens? Another kid picks up a gun and shoots somebody, and America goes on about its business." - Floor Statement, August 12, 1994


"Too many children in the United States go to sleep to the sounds of gunfire and accept as normal the violent deaths of siblings, friends, and schoolmates. Working together, we can combat gang violence, poverty, and handguns to ensure we no longer have to live under the constant threat of violence." - Floor Statement, April 24, 1996

On Gun Safety
"More than 200 people die from the accidental use of handguns every year. In 1992 alone, 233 accidental deaths occurred because of handguns. This included 6 babies, 36 kids under the age of 14, and 8 senior citizens, 2 of whom were over the age of 80"In light of these sad and disturbing facts, there is no good reason to have ever more dangerous bullets on the market. And there is every good reason to keep off our streets and out of our homes bullets that supply handguns with the destructive power of assault weapons"" - Floor Statement, February 16, 1995


"We also must deal with the fact that handguns are too accessible. Handguns pose an ever-increasing danger to the safety and welfare of the American public. Nearly one-third of children ages 10 to 17 surveyed in 1993 said they knew how to get a gun"If it's true that `people kill people,' it's also true that they most frequently do so with handguns"" - Floor Statement, April 24, 1996

On the Assault Weapons Ban
"I want to recognize the leadership of Senator Feinstein and Senator Hatch for their efforts to combat gang violence"I also want to express my admiration for the Senator from California for her leadership on the assault weapons ban, both in her courageous efforts to pass it through Congress and her tenacity in stopping efforts to repeal it." - Floor Statement, April 24, 1996


On the NRA
"I think everybody knows how much money has been spent by the National Rifle Association and by the gun lobby"to prevent Americans from getting a crime bill." - Floor Statement, August 12, 1994

Even written in friendly language to Kerry you see his votes are NOT in gunowners best interests

I was curious to see if any of our Bush Haters can show us the anti-gun bills Bush has signed?
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Old 06-04-2004, 06:56 AM   #2
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Here's a little more info on John Heinz Kerry

SORRY FOR BEING LAZY TODAY AND DOING SOME CUT/PASTE JOBS, BUT THEY ARE GOOD READS


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John Kerry: Dove Lover Or Wolf In Sheep"s Clothing?
Well, it"s election season again. Time for candidates to dust off their shotguns and head to the fields.

For many legislators, it"s just another opportunity for a photo-op. It doesn"t matter how they"ve voted; it"s all about making voters think the candidate cares about what is important to them... even if the candidate really doesn"t.

Simply go to presidential candidate John Kerry"s website and you will see a prime example of this.

"John Kerry eats dove. Even better, he shoots them," the Kerry website reads. "From behind the stalks of a Southern cornfield, he'll watch them flutter and dart, and fire."

To read the article posted on the Kerry website, you would think this presidential contender is the 21st Century reincarnation of John Wayne.

Kerry is the only combat veteran in the field, the article continues. He stands 6-foot-4 and "rides a Harley, plays ice hockey, snowboards, windsurfs, kitesurfs, and has such thick, aggressive hair he uses a brush with metal teeth."

A real macho, gun nut we are led to believe.

But looking at his record over the last decade, one is hard pressed to find ANY time he has supported gun owners" rights. Consider just some of Kerry"s most recent votes:

* Lock up your safety. On February 26 of this year, Sen. Kerry voted for an amendment that would require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need. In addition, the amendment would create a broad and implicit cause of action against gun owners who fail to actually use the storage device to lock up their firearms. Of course, a locked gun then becomes unavailable for self-defense.

* Feinstein semi-auto ban. On March 2, Kerry voted for a Dianne Feinstein amendment that would extend the ban that was signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 -- a ban which outlaws certain magazines and more than 180 types of semi-automatic firearms.

* Gun show ban. Kerry also voted on March 2 for language that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows, unless the buyer agrees to submit to a background registration check. Even worse, the amendment could effectively eliminate gun shows because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the [Brady Law] requirements." Thus, if the person responsible for handing out "Brady pamphlets" took a break to go to the bathroom, everyone responsible for the event could be sent to prison.

* Hunting ammo ban. Senator Kerry"s disdain for hunters was seen in March of this year when he voted for a Ted Kennedy amendment that would extend the federal ban on many types of ammunition. In the name of prohibiting so-called "cop-killer bullets," the Kennedy ban would have included superior performance ammunition in popular hunting calibers such as the .30-06.

These are just some of the votes from this year. A trip down "memory lane" for the past ten years reveals more infringements of people"s liberties:

* Free speech restrictions. In April 2001, Kerry voted to severely curtail the ability of outside groups such as GOA to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election. This Incumbent Protection legislation makes it even harder for Gun Owners to point out the unconstitutional votes that are cast by anti-gun legislators such as Kerry.

* Lautenberg gun ban. One of the most far-reaching gun bans that Kerry voted for was in September 1996 -- the so-called Lautenberg Gun Ban. This ban has disarmed people for life -- for offenses that include pushing, shoving or, in some cases, even yelling at a family member. The language of this lifetime gun ban is so expansive that unsuspecting parents have been disarmed for simply using legitimate corporal punishment.

* Gun Free School Zones Ban. Eighty-five percent of Americans support the right of a school principal or teacher to defend students" lives with a firearm. Despite this overwhelming support for preventing school massacres, Sen. Kerry voted in 1996 to ban firearms within 1,000 feet of a school. This ban has done nothing to keep criminals from carrying guns onto school grounds, and instead, could very well make criminals out of heroes like Assistant Principal Joel Myrick of Mississippi, who used his firearm in 1997 to stop a student-killer.

* Brady gun control. Senator Kerry voted for the original Brady Bill in November 1993. This bill endangered gun buyers" safety -- forcing them to wait five days before being able to purchase a handgun from a gun store -- and endangered their privacy by requiring their names to be sent to the FBI.

* Clinton-Feinstein semi-auto ban. Not surprisingly, Senator Kerry also voted for the ban on certain magazines and on scores of firearms in 1993 and 1994. This was the first time the federal government had outright banned the mere possession of certain types of firearms.

Kerry"s anti-gun record has certainly not gone unnoticed by his friends. The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (formerly known as the Coalition to Ban Handguns) says on its website that Kerry "has voted with the National Coalition to Stop Gun Violence 100% of the time... [and] received an 'F' from the National Rifle Association and had a 0% rating with Gun Owners of America."

Over and over again, Senator John Kerry has voted against the Second Amendment. A friend of gun owners, Kerry is not.

But hey, aren"t you glad he loves to shoot doves?


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More Kerry GUN CONTROL

Gun control is a tough act for Democrats. While polls show overwhelming support among Democratic primary voters for federal regulation of gun ownership, that is not true for general-election voters as a whole.

In Al Gore"s 2000 campaign, the National Rifle Association tar brushed the candidate as one who would take Americans" guns away. Consequently, Gore lost in states such as Tennessee and West Virginia, where hunting is king. Some pundits even suggest that his tough stance on guns cost him the election.

In retrospect, Gore indeed shot himself in the foot while still in the primary campaign. He and Bill Bradley literally competed to see who had the stronger gun control program.

Gore stood in bold relief on the top of the ridgeline, calling for licensing and registration of handguns. For gun owners that"s the kiss of death. Some 47 percent of households and 54 percent of union households, a key Democratic stronghold, own guns.

Democrats have learned the hard way to draw the line in the sand -- the assault weapons ban and background checks can play in Peoria, but handgun registration is poison.

Enter John Kerry --


Kerry has voted with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence 100 percent the time, and he has earned a grade of "F" from the powerful National Rifle Association " as well as a 0 percent rating with Gun Owners of America. He opposes granting gun makers immunity from civil lawsuits arising wrongful use of weapons, supports renewing the ban on assault-type weapons, and would require the same background checks at gun shows that are mandatory for other gun sales.

Kerry"s stump message in a nutshell: I"m a hunter. I like to hunt and shoot guns. I believe heartily in the right to bear arms. But, stick with me now, we gun-totters can certainly stand some common sense rules of gun responsibility.


Yes, "Responsibility," with a capital "R" -- right here in River City:

"Mr. President, the issue before us today can be summed up in one word: responsibility. I first started hunting with my cousins when I was young and I still enjoy hunting today. I believe strongly in the Second Amendment and I believe in the right to bear arms. But I also believe that with our rights as Americans come responsibilities." (March 2004 speech in favor of extending the assault weapons ban)

Just in case the R-word doesn"t resonate enough, Kerry has worked to cast the shadow of the tall, lone American hunter in the field. Dressed up in duck boots, jeans, a manly flannel shirt and an orange shooting vest, he has blasted away at pheasants with a troop of reporters bringing up the rear.

But, alas, commical images aside, there"s just so ammunition re Kerry on this issue. Republicans are not cat-calling "flip-flop" for the simple reason that the candidate has been pretty consistent over the years. So consistent, in fact, that it gave the candidate the delicious " if ironic -- satisfaction of crying "flip-flop" himself.

When a 1992 NRA questionnaire surfaced that indicated that Howard Dean would "oppose restrictions on semiautomatic firearms," Kerry leaped into action:

"Howard Dean needs to square his support for the N.R.A. with his current position. You can"t just flip a position in the year you decide to run for president and say, "Here I am." I think people are looking for something more than that."

On the Record:


Kerry voted for the assault weapons ban contained in the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1993, restricting the manufacture, transfer, and possession of certain semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices. On November 17, 1993, the amendment passed 56-43.

Kerry voted for the Brady Bill in November 1993. The legislation required a 5-day waiting period on handgun purchases, to allow local officials to conduct a background check. The bill passed the House on November 10 and on November 20, 1993, the bill passed the Senate 63-36.

Kerry voted against the motion to table (defeat) the Boxer/Kohl Amendment, requiring that all handguns sold in the United States be sold with a child safety lock. On July 21, 1998, a motion was made to table the amendment. The motion to table passed 61-39.

Kerry voted against the Craig Amendment that would have required that gun stores have trigger locks in stock and available for sale. The vote on the Craig amendment was immediately prior to a vote on the stronger Boxer/Kohl amendment to require all handguns sold in the United States be sold with a child safety lock. The Craig Amendment was an effort to undercut support for the stronger Boxer/Kohl amendment. On July 21, 1998, the amendment passed 72-28.

Kerry voted against the Large Ammunition Magazine Ban Amendment to ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices. On July 21, 1998, a motion was made to table the amendment. The motion to table passed 54-44.

Kerry voted against the motion to table (defeat) the Child Access Prevention Amendment to increase penalties for individuals who permit juvenile access to firearms. On July 21, 1998, a motion was made to table the amendment. The motion to table passed 69-31.

Kerry voted for the Lautenberg Gun Show Amendment to the Violent and Repeat Juvenile Offender Accountability and Rehabilitation Act of 1999 to close the loophole allowing individuals to sell guns from their private collections at gun shows without completing background checks for purchasers. On May 20, 1999, with Vice President Al Gore casting the tie-breaking vote, the amendment passed 51-50.

Kerry voted against the motion to table (defeat) the Ban on Unlicensed Sale of Guns on Internet, an amendment to the Violent and Repeat Juvenile Offender Accountability and Rehabilitation Act of 1999 banning the unlicensed sale of guns on the Internet by requiring websites clearly designed to sell guns to be federally licensed firearms dealers and to comply with all such federal laws. A motion was offered to table the amendment. On May 14, 1999, the motion to table passed 50-43.

Kerry voted against the motion to table (defeat) Large-Capacity Clips, an amendment to the Violent and Repeat Juvenile Offender Accountability and Rehabilitation Act of 1999, to ban the importation of large-capacity magazines (ammunition feeding devices that can hold more than ten rounds). A motion was offered to table the amendment. On May 13, 1999, the motion to table failed 39-59.
In 2000, Kerry signed the Democrat manifesto, "A New Agenda for the New Decade," which, among a host of other things, calls for the development and use of "smart gun" technology to prevent use of firearms by unauthorized persons
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Old 06-04-2004, 05:08 PM   #3
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Kerry is one of the few that rates a 100% grade from the brady bunch, That means that he has voted just like they wanted him to 100% of the time, do we as gun-owners need him as president? Before you vote for anyone but Bush stop and think about having kerry as president.
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Kerry is just an all around bunghole, and that's the only good thing I have to say about him.
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Even if Kerry mouthed the words that some hunters want to hear to make them "think" he's a 2nd Amendment, so they'd fumble around and figure out how to fill in the circle next to his name, how could they believe he'd say or believe the same thing 6 months, 2 weeks or 2 minutes from now?

He's a fake, phony and an opportunist, who like most socialists will do and say what they have to in order to get and hold power. Once they've got power, they'll use it to accomplish THEY'RE agenda! And their agenda includes, as Ms. Feinstein says, "Mr. and Mrs. America turn in ALL of your guns." (As she admitted several years ago on air with Mike Wallace.)
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The Brady law "has prevented almost 700,000 felons, fugitives and mentally ill people from purchasing guns."
I seriously doubt that anyone can support this statement with facts!!! It's pure BS!!
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I can hear Kerry now,
I paid my dues to become a lifetime member of the NRA.....just before I cancelled the check.

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Just look back to Clinton, he was one of the most anti 2nd amendment to date he'd tout he same retoric, with the I'm not against the hunter, he even went as far as going on a mock duck hunt for a photo op, shortly after he had went to a Brady party[:@]

Gore pulled the same retoric out during '00 while up in the northern midwest. If they came up with a different ploy it may work on some of the gun owners out there that actually beleive them. I'm in a union and at the training school you wouldn't believe all the propaganda they have regarding how the gun control is a conspiracy by the right to frighten us in to believing that they want to ban guns[:@] What a joke.

Although I am in a union by no means do I let them baffle me, you have to think for yourself. the same retoric
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The Brady law "has prevented almost 700,000 felons, fugitives and mentally ill people from purchasing guns."
I seriously doubt that anyone can support this statement with facts!!! It's pure BS!!
Right , and I saw a debate on this once where they touted this and when asked how many were prosecuted they blew it off.But research had shown that about two were the only number they could find that actually went to court for the charges
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A John Kerry statement on the second amendment would look like this....


"I actually did support the Second Amendment...Before I turned against it"!


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" I do support the Second Amendment, for those of us who can afford it"
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