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Old 05-21-2004, 06:16 PM   #1
 
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I have been thinking a lot about whether we are doing the right thing in Iraq. No, we haven't found the weapons of mass destruction. But that doesn't mean they aren't there. Yes, there are tragic things occuring there on a regular basis.
For me, it is all summed up in 2 words...."terrorism"...and "insurgents". We are hated by many in the Muslim world. They want to kill Americans. Perhaps I am too simplistic in my thinking....but we must fight terrorism. Because we are in Muslim Iraq, insurgent terrorists have come in from the outside to fight us. It seems to me that Iraq is a better battlefield than New York, Washington, or London.
Further, it seems to me that the U.S./British military are far more capable of dealing with terrorist insurgents than the police/FBI. I do not think this is like Viet Nam...except for one similarity...we are expecting our troops to fight "with one hand tied behind their back". For me, the lesson of Viet Nam is this: If you are going to bother to fight..fight to win. Forget about world opinion...ruthlessness, violence, and domination are what these people understand.

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The media is doing the best job it can to make Iraq become Vietnam!
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We are doing exactly the right thing! When has freeing an oppressed people from a regime of terror like Saddam's EVER BEEN A BAD THING?!!!
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We are doing exactly the right thing! When has freeing an oppressed people from a regime of terror like Saddam's EVER BEEN A BAD THING?!!!
It has never been a bad thing, but we didn't go over to Iraq to free an oppressed people. We went over to Iraq to find WMD.
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We are doing exactly the right thing! When has freeing an oppressed people from a regime of terror like Saddam's EVER BEEN A BAD THING?!!!
It has never been a bad thing, but we didn't go over to Iraq to free an oppressed people. We went over to Iraq to find WMD.
Well then what are the Mustard gas and the sarin in a shell? And don't us the worn out excuse of "It was only a couple" Or all the WMD they thwarted in Jordan a couple weeks back? Well...

Those who are hung on the WMD is the only reason we went in, won't be happy unless we find a couple million tons with a note from Saddam saying it was his[:@] GIVE ME A BREAK
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The major problem is, is the public:

1) wants this war
2) wants to watch it on CNN
3) doesn't want to see it but feels they have to to tell the military how they want it run
4) Doesn't realize that war sucks and shouldn't be seen by common folk, if you want it done right
And basically is making the Military run itself down in a quagmire by trying to micro manage the whole thing.

We should demand that the cameras be shut off and let the boys do their job then come home. I don't need to see it and If you do, then I suggest you march down to your local recruiter and enlist.

If you want an accurate vision of this war, talk to a service member who's been there, they'll all tell you that it's going better than the media is portraying it, even a couple have said that they were more scard of this war watching it on TV back here in the states.
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Those who are hung on the WMD is the only reason we went in, won't be happy unless we find a couple million tons with a note from Saddam saying it was his GIVE ME A BREAK
Facts are WMD is why Bush ordered the U.S into Iraq. He didn't send the military there to "Free any oppressed people. Lets not be hypocritical here. We went into Iraq becasue Bush believed that the country had WMD. And because Iraq had WMD, it posed a threat to the US and the world. That is a fact.

Since the US can't find any WMD it became a mission of mercy? I'm not buying it. Now maybe there are WMD in Iraq, maybe there isn't. I can't make that call. But lets not change the story of why we are there...again. We went to Iraq to find WMD. Lets call a spade a spade.

However regardless why we went over there, we are there now. That is what we must focus on.
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Iraq was not a mercy mission. We went to Iraq to rid the world of a tyrant and to end a growing threat against the United States. Freeing a people was simply an added bonus.

WMDs have not been found and, at this point, I don't believe we'll ever find the large stockpiles we hoped to find. Does that mean that we were wrong for going to Iraq? Absolutely not. We KNOW that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, he'd used them on his own people, for pete's sake. We know that he was trying to acquire nuclear technology, that's pretty well documented. We know that he was funding terrorists - perhaps 911 terrorists, perhaps not. The empty shells I think are proof that Iraq's WMD program wasn't completely eliminated.

Knowing now what we know, should we have gone to Iraq? I would say at this point that I would probably favor not going RIGHT NOW. But we did, and that's that. We certainly weren't wrong for doing it. Saddam WAS a threat to the U.S. and his neighbors, and his own people, frankly. The very matter of him funding terrorists was more than enough reason to take him out. This is a war against terrorism, after all. Trapper T made an excellent point about Jordan's WMD confessions. Let's not think that this war hasn't done us some good. It is a VERY big step in the war on terrorism, fear has been struck in the heart of every terrorist out there, all of who are hoping like heck that Kerry wins, I'm sure. Our soldiers didn't die in vain, that's for sure.

What cracks me up is all the liberals who say that we were wrong for going to Iraq because Saddam wasn't a threat. Assuming that, let's say that the American people see fit to elect Kerry to office (and pray to God that they don't). How many people do you think would be in favor of pardoning Saddam and placing him back in power in Iraq? After all, he wasn't a threat.
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All in all, I still feel that we did the right thing!
I shudder to think of what Kerry would do! He'd probably run our fleet out of fuel, sending them half way and then recalling them!
I'm sending ya'll in! No wait come back! No, no, go head on in! No, on third though, lets not go, there are a couple of countries and the UN that might get offended!
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I agree. We went there to Find WMD,s
We didnt find them and Sadam is in Captivity. Time to go home.
The Majority there do not want us there...F***8 them and get our guys and gals outa there.
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