And their doing it on purpose and systematically. The poor elderly that are giving up food for over priced meds are dying off with the feds smiling at every funeral. The lame attempts to correct the problem is just a scam to make us think they care. The more elderly that dye the less SS they have to pay out. Around here elderly are forced to sell there homes,Get divorced after 50 years of marriage to get welfare and so forth. Lets face it the easiest way ouf of the SS problem is eliminate the payout. Then they come up with the new medicare card for prescriptions.What a joke that is. Dont pay crap unless your all ready so low on the income list your already living in the streets. Then they are threatening to arrest the elderly that are getting cheaper meds from outside the country. Real smart open the borders for the alien to take are jobs but close them to cheaper meds to keep the elderly alive. Kill us all off you idiots.Glad I aint going to spend time in heaven with them inbread murderers. In heaven I will be healthy and pain free and them Government rapist will be burning in the lake of fire. Quess what it is against the law of God to send them water across the border to ease their burning pain.Today I got to go to a funeral of a 62 year old friend that was forced to cut back on his high blood pressure meds.The private insurance company dropped him,the medicare program would not help him with the meds.So they let him dye. What a way for a proud American to die!
This gets my vote as the biggest bunch of malarky I've ever read on this forum.
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Around here elderly are forced to sell there homes,Get divorced after 50 years of marriage to get welfare and so forth.
Come on. I live in one of the most economically deprived areas of the southeast. The # of retirees in my county who had a retirement plan when they left the workforce, you could probably count on your fingers and toes, almost. When they were working, they were below the poverty level and now that they are no longer able to work, they're even below that. They rely on TennCare and many of them are being cut from the program because of financial woes to the state. I haven't seen ONE SINGLE elderly person have to sell their home and I sure ain't seen none get divorced to pay for their medications. Give me a break.
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Glad I aint going to spend time in heaven with them inbread murderers. In heaven I will be healthy and pain free and them Government rapist will be burning in the lake of fire. Quess what it is against the law of God to send them water across the border to ease their burning pain.
Spoken like a rambling mad-man.
I'm sorry to hear about your friend, but man you'd be a posterboy for John Kerry and the Democrats.
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Ben the cost of living is much cheaper down south. The ss check is the same for a Northern person and a Southern person if they made the same wage when working.
Some elderly are moving south to get some relief. Your in another world if you dont think the elderly are not suffering. The average elderly person on ss up here gets around 1000 a month. The average property taxes alone on a average home is 3000 a year. A 1 bedroom rat infested apartments start at 500 a month. Most people I know have around 300 a month medication expense out of their pocket. Heating cost has doubled from 600 to heat to 1200 to heat a year. The average electric bill is 80 a month. A ambulance ride is 800 t0 1200 a trip Just spend 2 days in the hospital and my part of the bill was 2200. Do that a couple times a year. Aint much left to eat with. And that aint including all the other living expenses. I was forced in order to keep my wife alive is get seperated on paper. The medicare system wont pay for her oxygen unless her O2 level is 88.Hey that level requires to be admitted to the hospital. Then you get a 1000 a day bill. I got seperated and wife went on welfare.They pay for all her medical bills. I hate it,but I was not going to let my wife dye.I already went thru my lifes savings trying to keep her alive the past 6 years.over 500,000 . Pa has a state supplement insurance for the low income. She had that , 432 a month it cost her. When she was put on Medicare the law required she drop that insurance. Hope you stay healthy in your old age,and for the life of me dont move north,you will starve. I lived many years down South already. I know how much cheaper it is. But hey the heat would kill my wife also. And she aint no exception. The US is full of elderly in her situation. Thru my frusration with my wifes problems I got involved in this major problem.Talked to many State and Federal politicians. They actually suggested the Welfare route after we sperated. Several even suggested with her condition death might be a option,since their aware the system fails the chronic ill person.Hey and my wife is only 55. Maybe I should just let her dye,What the hey then they can have her remaining Disabilty cash for studing the sexual habits of a african ant.
PS I,m not advocating Ferry Kerry for any office. How about sending the whole stinkin mess of them to mars on the next onewway multibillion dollar trip to mars
Many elderly people with serious health problems have sold their homes in order to qualify for medical treatment plans because in order to qualify for most of these programs you can have no assets. They sell everything they own, in many cases they give the cash to thier children as a pre inheritance because they are not allowed to have any savings at all.
How do I know this? Well my mother suffered a VERY long term death illness, my father was a retired military man and when he died the military was supposed to continue to take care of my mothers health needs until her death. Well during the Reagan years they renigged on the debt owed to the widows of the very veterans who saved the world in WWII and fought in Korea, by deciding that spouses of retirees once they hit 62 were no longer elidgable for CHAMPUS and stuck them on Medicare, well needless to say my mother could not afford her medical needs and qualified for no programs of any sort because she owned her home!!!! Long story short, she signed her place over to my brother and I (another way around the BS!) and then because she was now destitute financially she did qualify! Of course even though she was living rent free every dime she made went strictly to her medical bills and food! Her clothes and other needs my brother and I took care of.
There are other elderly who are not as fortunant as my mom and have no family to fall back on!
There are numerous couples that in order for one of them to get into a nursing home have to divorce because if they don't, the spouse can not afford to keep thier home and still qualify.
Ben you are dead wrong. It may be exactly what you say it is like in your area, but if it is, it is the exception and not the rule!
I am not liberal in most areas, but when it comes to making sure our elderly can afford medical care without becoming destitute I am.
Ben maybe you feel that we do not owe anything to our elderly, but I would love to hear if you are whistling the same tune when you are 70 and either you or your wife have an expensive medical condition and you are trying to decide, "Do I buy food for us or the medicine?"
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Cardeer ,
I too think that it's shameful the way the goobermint , and even everyday Americans , treat our elderly . I can see Stealthycat's rather crudely put point , SS was never meant as a total retirement plan , but that doesn't excuse many of the things I see happening . Being told to "just cowboy up" doesn't feed the bulldog or keep the rain off your face , neither does questioning your lack of a private retirement plan . Not everybody has access to one .
My Mother is 64 and living in a small condo that thankfully is paid off , but she is on SSI right now and doesn't have a car anymore so things are tough for her . She's been self employed for over 20 years , and money was always tight , so other than getting some SS from my Dad she has very little . I try to help out where I can , take her to fill her perscriptions , grocery shop , etc. , but I couldn't live like she does without worrying . I told her not to worry , if push came to shove I may not be ***anese , but she'll always have a home as long as I'm around . I'd rather work 2 jobs than see her in a nursing home .
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Stealthy have you ever had some one go through a serious illness? I can tell by your post that you haven't a single hospital stay can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, medical insurance worth a hill of beans for the elderly is extremely expensive.
Let us say you retire with a million in the bank and a nice retirement check, now let us say in the course of the first 3-4 years of retirement both you and your wife wind up in the hospital a few times or wind up having to take a prescription drug that cost out of YOUR pocket $100 a day, do you think your million will still be there?
Health insurance goes up by leaps and bounds once you are over thirty and when you hit 50+ it skyrockets!
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