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Old 05-20-2004, 09:06 AM   #1
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You were sold out by your own government and corporate america...

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Concerned over the under-valuation of rupee that was making the Indian exports cheaper, the United States Electronic Industries Alliance on Wednesday proposed tightening the L-1 visa rules to prevent foreign companies operating in India to bring their employees to the US.

The Indian rupee, Chinese yuan, ***anese yen and Taiwan and Singapore dollars are "the most undervalued Asian currencies," the industry body said in a report authored by its president Dave McCurdy and chairman of board of governors Ronald L Turner.

One reason for the US to take a moderate approach to this issue is China and other Asian nations, including India, hold their reserves largely in US Government securities, it said.

"If the Asians stopped buying or began unloading these, the dollar would fall even faster and bond yields would rise, the report noted.

"By buying government securities, the Asian central banks are lending the US cheap money, holding down US interest rates and sustaining consumer spending -- on Asian products, in some cases -- and mortgage borrowing," it said.

The main concern is not outsourcing but demagoguery and political overreaction to this business practice, which is not new and will lead to protectionist policies, it said.

Gaining access to highly specialised talent is an important component of US competitiveness. Nearly half of the people hired on H1-B visas have graduate degrees, and only 5 per cent of the US population has the same level of education. A large percentage of H1-B visa holders are graduates of US schools, the report said.

It suggests foreign masters and PhD graduates should be exempted from H1-B cap and a fast-track green card given. On the other hand restrictions on L-1 visas should be tightened.

The report wants the US educational system to be upgraded in order to compete with the Chinese and the Indians.

"The lack of an over-arching vision with inadequate investment in innovation, contributes to short-term and false choice that could potentially lead to critics' prophesis of inevitable Chinese or Indian economic dominance.

"The core value of a knowledge-based company or society should be innovation, which at its heart is creativity plus risk-taking," the report said, urging the US to spend more on research and development.
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Old 05-20-2004, 09:24 AM   #3
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U.S. citizens are being replaced in the U.S. with foreigners at an ever expanding pace. The reason our goobermint won't stop this influx of Chinese and Indians is because those two countries have HUGE holdings in US securities and will dump them if we stop importing workers. If they dump them, the economy spirals down.

The U.S. is allowing foreign countries to screw U.S. citizens because of it's own ineptitude.
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"Let's leave no child behind ... "
Yeah , that was a real good idea ...
We've mortgaged both our future and our children's for a feel good educational policy that encourages students to be so mediocre that they can't compete against foreign students anymore . I don't totally blame No child left behind , it's only a symptom of a greater problem , and the schools systems have become liberal cesspools of malaise and mediocrity on their own . No offense to the teachers , y'all just did what you were told .

Should we all just sign over our possessions to the Chinese and Indians now , or just wait until we hear that knock on the door at Midnight ? [:'(] [:@]
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So, what is the solution?
Call their bluff. When the U.S. economy falters so does theirs.
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According to Kerry, our jobs are going to India. Why would Indians want to come here? To be unemployed?
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The report wants the US educational system to be upgraded in order to compete with the Chinese and the Indians.

If we have a lot of Chinese and Indians in our advanced degree programs, I question why we would think their system is what we should strive for. I dont want more of them in our colleges. 20 years ago, in my more technical than artsy university, I nearly needed a translator to get me thru classes as it was.
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another thing,

As far as corporate concerns go, BS

There is never a shortage of XYZ persons, there is just a shortage of XYZ persons that will work cheap. Corps want to flood the market with XYZ persons so they can get by with lower wages.
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