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Old 05-13-2004, 07:15 AM   #1
 
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Old 05-13-2004, 07:29 AM   #2
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I read one exchange/quote from both sides, our government said we never held him, had access to him, but it was the Iraqies who were holding him. Berg's family didn't dispute this, but said it was the same as us holding him cause we control the Iraqies.

There is more to this than is coming out.

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What happened to him is very tragic and I feel for his family. There can never be any justification for what was done to him.
But he went there on his own, through Jordan, and he surely must have known the risk.
He said he wanted to help rebuild Iraq and there was money to be made.
As intelligent as he was supposed to be, he must not have been "street smart".
Reminds me of Daniel Pearl.
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Old 05-14-2004, 11:16 PM   #4
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Your information is correct.

He was also told by Iraqi officials to get the hell out of Iraq.

he refused. He had an Israeli passport stamp in his passport -- many arab countries will not allow you to enter their country with this item because you would be killed.

He was a jew in an arab country "selling radio towers" -- we'll see.

I am not rationlizing what they did, they should all be killed in the most violent and painful manner known. BUT , Berg was either a complete screaming IDIOT for his total disregard for himself or he was up to something.
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:36 AM   #5
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or he was up to something
As tragic as his death was I feel the same way. He was not there only to help build towers, something isn't right with this whole thing. How in the hell are we supposed to believe that his email and Mousaui (sp) in Colorado in 1999 isn't way too much of a coincidence.
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:27 PM   #6
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An article worth reading. Berg's Father and Firm Were On A Right-Wing
'Enemies' List. There are a lot of un-answered questions.

About so said murderer of Berg: Al-Zarqawi:

Al-Zarqawi came to our attention in January, 2004 when the US military claimed to have intercepted a letter of his written to the al-Queda leadership. But the content of the letter read like a US military propaganda statement on the situation in Iraq.

In the letter al-Zarqawi wrote of Iraqis coming to welcome the US presence in Iraq, and about how al-Queda was loosing ground in it's war against the US.

In February, 2004 an article "The Zarqawi Gambit," by Greg Weiher on Counterpunch was deeply skeptical of the letter:
"..if you were Karl Rove, you couldn't design a better scenario to validate the administration's slant on the war than this. That's a good reason to maintain a healthy skepticism. In fact, there are a number of good reasons to take this story with a grain of salt (maybe a three- or four-pounder)."
The US has been keen to paint the opposition to the occupation as composed of many foreign fighters tied to al-Queda. The letter was clearly fabricated for propaganda purposes, with al-Zarqawi as it's new al-Queda star.

But if al-Zarqawi is merely a flimsy propaganda creation, then what confidence can we have in the official line that al-Zarqawi and al-Queda murdered Berg?

The only plausible alternative is a covert, black operation orchestrated as part of the seedier arm of US foreign policy --which generally only come to light when candid photographs, for example, reach the public domain.

But that's an explanation which many would reject on the grounds that no force allied to the US --no matter how black its operations-- would have members so callous as to even countenance the cold-blooded beheading of a US citizen.

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Old 05-16-2004, 08:41 PM   #7
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could be... who knows.



You won't catch me in D.C. with a $20 taped to my forehead screaming "n!gger".......... thats how stupid he was ---- if it's true.
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Old 05-27-2004, 03:27 PM   #8
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More information about beheading case:

Quote, "US Gov't Disavows E-Mails About Berg's Detention

The State Department says an e-mail from a consular officer in Iraq that said beheaded American Nicholas Berg had been in US custody was based on erroneous information.
Spokeswoman Kelly Shannon says the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq had sent the incorrect information to the diplomat. The diplomat sent Berg's family an e-mail saying he had been in US custody. But officials now insist he had been held by Iraqi police.

Berg wrote his parents after his release that federal agents had questioned him about whether he had ever built a pipe bomb or had been in Iran.
His family says being delayed by the detention prevented him from leaving the country sooner.

To back its claims that Berg was in US custody, the family on Thursday released copies of e-mails from Beth A. Payne, the US consular officer in Iraq.

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"I have confirmed that your son, Nick, is being detained by the U.S. military in Mosul. He is safe. He was picked up approximately one week ago. We will try to obtain additional information regarding his detention and a contact person you can communicate with directly," Payne wrote to Berg's father, Michael, on April 1st.

Payne repeated that Berg was "being detained by the U.S. military" in an e-mail the same day to Berg's mother, Suzanne. The next day, Payne wrote that she was still trying to find a local contact for the family, but added that "given the security situation in Iraq it is not easy."

Berg is believed to have been kidnapped days after Iraqi police or coalition forces released him April 6th.

State Department spokeswoman Kelly Shannon says the Coalition Provisional Authority did not tell Payne until April 7th that Berg had been held by Iraqi police and not the US military.

Berg's brother is calling on the government to come clean about its contacts with the slain American before he died. The family has blamed the government for keeping him in custody for too long while anti-American violence escalated in Iraq.

"They're trying to deflect attention to a couple weeks down the road when no one's paying attention," David Berg said. "I think President Bush needs to be a man about this and tell the truth. I think most, if not all, Americans can figure out who's telling the truth and who's lying."


Nick Berg Video Was Uploaded From London, Not Iraq

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JackBlood.com Has Traced The Address Of "Islamic Website"; That Posted
The Berg Decapitation Video To London, England

The Video Was Uploaded From London, Not Iraq

After several hours of research, JackBlood.com has learned the webaddresses for the "Islamic Websites"; that posted the Nick Berg decapitation video.

The website addresses are www.al-asnar.net and www.al-asnar.biz . Both websites have apparently been disabled by'authorities.' The location of the web server is reportedly in Malaysia. However, the addresses of the publishers for these sites arelocated in London, England and Nurnberg, Denmark.

The addresses began to disappear from the internet listings as wereported this development on The Power Hour Radio Show. Apparently, "Big Brother"; had been listening to the show and didn't like the newsat all.

The location of the publishers for al-ansar.net appears to be at an Arab Press Building, which appears to be shared by different Arab newspublications. The name of the organization is the Arab Press House. Thebuilding is apparently the headquarters for news
magazines such as, AlJamilla, Sayidaty, and Al Majallah among others.

The London address is the following:

http://www.al-ansar.net

Berg video, Bin Laden tape, same source
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Old 05-27-2004, 03:46 PM   #9
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Glad to see you back, kat. I've been needing something to laugh at lately!
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Old 05-27-2004, 08:45 PM   #10
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I dont consider that all of the peculiarities with this guy and his situation up to and potentially including his death are strictly circumstantial. I also doubt we will ever be able to tie all the strings together.

However, None of that justifies his demise.
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