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Old 04-21-2004, 10:29 AM   #1
 
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Default 7500 AK-47's found in ships cargo.

It was reported on the news this morning that 7500 AK-47's were found hidden (but not too well) in cargo going to a Georgia importer.
Thats all that was said, so does anyone have more info on this.
The report didn't say what kind of cargo they were hidden in.

This could be bad in several differant ways.
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Old 04-21-2004, 10:34 AM   #2
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I haven't heard anything yet, but I'll keep my eyes peeled. You know how the media hypes up its headlines, though. Probably 7,500 SAR-1's, not AK's.
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[link]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117766,00.html[/link]

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Illegal Arms Shipment Seized En Route to U.S.

Wednesday, April 21, 2004



A Turkish ship headed for New York "” and stuffed with thousands of AK-47s (search) and other Kalashnikov assault rifles "” was seized en route in Italy, authorities said Tuesday.



The ship's deadly hoard of more than 7,500 terrorist-grade rifles and machine guns worth more than $6 million was discovered illegally hidden under piles of properly labeled arms in several massive cargo containers, Italian officials said.

The ship MS Adnan Bayraktar, which bears a Turkish flag, had come from the Romanian port of Constanta (search) and was on its way to a stopover in New York when the bust was made, the authorities said.

Documents showed the cargo containers were ultimately headed to a large U.S. company based in Georgia.

Officials refused to identify the business, citing security concerns and the ongoing investigation.

"We know that the [ship's] destination was North America, but we don't effectively know if that's where the [suspect] arms were going," one customs official told Italian state television.

The ship's cache of combat-style weapons was uncovered several days ago during a routine customs inspection at the Calabrian port of Gioia Tauro in southern Italy, officials said. They said they didn't reveal the bust at the time because of the continuing probe.

The weapons were confiscated by the Italian authorities because of problems with the ship's customs forms. For example, the arms had been described on some of the forms as "common guns" instead of assault-style.

The smuggled firearms included the lightweight combat Kalashnikov rifles, AK-47 assault rifles and SKA and Mauser (search) rifles, authorities said.

The weapons' bayonets were still affixed to them, as were cartridges that can hold up to 30 rounds, they said.

The AK-47s had been tampered with so they couldn't be rapidly fired, but the modification was one that could easily have been reversed, authorities said.

The assault weapons are a favorite with terrorists: Usama bin Laden sported one in the now-infamous footage of him taken after 9/11.

AK-47s also have been the weapon of choice for some infamous military-minded wackos, such as the teens who shot up Columbine HS in Littleton, Colo., in 1999.

The United States has banned such military-style semiautomatic weapons since 1994. The law preventing them from being manufactured, imported or sold here expires in September.
Looks like some company was trying to get rich on expiration day.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:43 PM   #4
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The weapons' bayonets were still affixed to them, as were cartridges that can hold up to 30 rounds, they said.

The AK-47s had been tampered with so they couldn't be rapidly fired, but the modification was one that could easily have been reversed, authorities said.

The assault weapons are a favorite with terrorists: Usama bin Laden sported one in the now-infamous footage of him taken after 9/11.
See what I mean? Oooh, bayonets and high-cap mags--they must be terrorist arms! Had been tampered with so they couldn't be rapidly fired? I'd like some more specifics about this one. And since I'm in the mood to nitpick, Osama was in fact firing an AK-74 (easily distinguishable by it's orange magazine).

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AK-47s also have been the weapon of choice for some infamous military-minded wackos, such as the teens who shot up Columbine HS in Littleton, Colo., in 1999.

The United States has banned such military-style semiautomatic weapons since 1994. The law preventing them from being manufactured, imported or sold here expires in September.
Some more well-researched info here. That's right, if a gun looks scary, it's obviously an AK-47! And in September, all AK-47's will be legal!

Basically, I'm trying to say that the media (and politicans) confuses these terms so much that I really have no faith in them ever getting it right. I've heard people say that SAR-1's can be easily concerted to full-auto, and that's just not true. So until more details come out, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

For all we know they could just be another shipment of cheap Romanian or Hungarian AK knock-offs that don't have the right customs forms with them. If so, why is that a big deal? I can go down to the local gun shop and take one home with me today.
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Old 04-21-2004, 01:07 PM   #5
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So the liberal media coined a new phrase that the anti-gunners can use to ban more guns. Link our second amendment rights to terrorism!
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Default RE: 7500 AK-47's found in ships cargo.

Those guys can chunk a mean rock too.......but I have never heard of a terroist-grade rock.
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I wonder if one of those SKA's would be better than my SKS.
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Old 04-21-2004, 08:09 PM   #8
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It is the most popular firearm in history.

The inventor lives in a hovel in russia, never got wealthy off of his invention. Who says the commies don't act like the capitalists. We have a history of screwing inventors. My favorite and most tragic story is that of Mr. Armstrong who invented Frequency Modulation.. he GAVE it to the U.S. government and was eventually left to kill himself because of the russian jew Sarnoff of RCA who convinced this absolute genius that he was worthless.....


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ORIGINAL: stork

[link]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117766,00.html[/link]

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Illegal Arms Shipment Seized En Route to U.S.

Wednesday, April 21, 2004



A Turkish ship headed for New York "” and stuffed with thousands of AK-47s (search) and other Kalashnikov assault rifles "” was seized en route in Italy, authorities said Tuesday.



The ship's deadly hoard of more than 7,500 terrorist-grade rifles and machine guns worth more than $6 million was discovered illegally hidden under piles of properly labeled arms in several massive cargo containers, Italian officials said.

The ship MS Adnan Bayraktar, which bears a Turkish flag, had come from the Romanian port of Constanta (search) and was on its way to a stopover in New York when the bust was made, the authorities said.

Documents showed the cargo containers were ultimately headed to a large U.S. company based in Georgia.

Officials refused to identify the business, citing security concerns and the ongoing investigation.

"We know that the [ship's] destination was North America, but we don't effectively know if that's where the [suspect] arms were going," one customs official told Italian state television.

The ship's cache of combat-style weapons was uncovered several days ago during a routine customs inspection at the Calabrian port of Gioia Tauro in southern Italy, officials said. They said they didn't reveal the bust at the time because of the continuing probe.

The weapons were confiscated by the Italian authorities because of problems with the ship's customs forms. For example, the arms had been described on some of the forms as "common guns" instead of assault-style.

The smuggled firearms included the lightweight combat Kalashnikov rifles, AK-47 assault rifles and SKA and Mauser (search) rifles, authorities said.

The weapons' bayonets were still affixed to them, as were cartridges that can hold up to 30 rounds, they said.

The AK-47s had been tampered with so they couldn't be rapidly fired, but the modification was one that could easily have been reversed, authorities said.

The assault weapons are a favorite with terrorists: Usama bin Laden sported one in the now-infamous footage of him taken after 9/11.

AK-47s also have been the weapon of choice for some infamous military-minded wackos, such as the teens who shot up Columbine HS in Littleton, Colo., in 1999.

The United States has banned such military-style semiautomatic weapons since 1994. The law preventing them from being manufactured, imported or sold here expires in September.
Looks like some company was trying to get rich on expiration day.
Could someone please define "Terrorist grade" for me , I don't get that one ... [:@]

Wow !
A cartridge that holds 30 rounds ! What'll they think of next ?

This is the kind of "slanted" reporting that I've come to expect from the media these days , I wouldn't believe most reporters if they told me that the sky was blue . [:'(]
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