Yes fng, I'm asking you along with everyone else out here your take on large families. Seems like everyone, including myself, hammered on you badly on your other post about the mother that received an award. So let's give this subject it's own thread - what's wrong with large families today? What's not wrong with them? Take it from a Biblical perspective or not.
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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a civilization, it expects what never was and what never will be.
I no longer find them practical nor necessary. In the past, it was necessary because the attritiion rate was very high and farmers needed as many hands as they could have (which in and of itself is a selfish motive that they rationalized via religion).
If you push a pencil or swing a hammer you DON'T NEED 10 KIDS hanging around. My argument is that over libidinous pin heads are using religion as a rationale for their having tons of kids -- in many cases that the public ends up paying for.
But even aside from that, If you want kids -- ADOPT ?? What is wrong with that? Why can't you simply adopt a child and prove yourself a much better person? Or would your "God" frown on that? I know mine wouldn't.
Children may be a gift from God... but REASON was his biggest gift to you.l
As long as the family is self-sufficient, then I have absolutely no problem with it. I certainly don't think I want more than three, but if having a lot of kids makes you happy, then have at it.
I'm not for anyone having a ton of kids only to rely on public assistance to help raise them, but if anyone that has the wherewithall to raise them on their own, go for it. I'm not sure I see your point on this religiously speaking, fng.
And to adopt if a couple wants children? That's a fun loving fuzzy thought you have there, but why take away someone's right to pass down their own genes, or go through child birth?
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We were made by God and for God, and until you figure that out, life isn't going to make sense.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a civilization, it expects what never was and what never will be.
fng... said:
My argument is that over libidinous pin heads are using religion as a rationale for their having tons of kids -- in many cases that the public ends up paying for.
fng... again, your name calling will get you nowhere. And it is a poor reflection on your position from the start. People will reject your message because of your harsh delivery.
Libido has nothing to do with it. Anyone can take the pill or have a vasectomy.
What is deemed large? How many cases exactly are many cases? Can you give us a percentage of the large families that end up on welfare?
If you're going to say that stuff, you need to back it up with reliable statistics.
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As long as a person can take care of his family the the size doesn't make much difference. My Wife has seven sisters and three brothers but they were all raised on the farm. Ther was just three of us kids in my family and my wife and I have three kids. With the cost of things and the way things are heading, I am glad we just had the three.
As long as a person can take care of his family the the size doesn't make much difference.
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Do you people read your own posts?
I'm trying to make a point and all of you SUPPOSEDLY educated people hop skip and jump...
you're probably all corporate managers anyway.
The really funny thing here, fng, is YOU are the one that refuses to place any meaning to your own points, thus making no point at all. Really, I'm not bashing you or saying you are an idiot, but you are obviously seeing something that none of the rest of us are. So please, by all means, enlighten us.
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We were made by God and for God, and until you figure that out, life isn't going to make sense.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a civilization, it expects what never was and what never will be.
I agree that large families are illogical for the average American. I would define a large family as more than 3 or 4 children.
The average American cannot afford to feed, cloth, educate, more than 3 or 4 children and still give them the full benefit of college funding or higher education at a trade school without student loans and grants (read that as glorified welfare which we all pay). The average American household income varies widely by region but I'd venture that it is probably less than $50,000 annually. (Do the math) Therefore, the wife will also have to work...how does that affect the rearing of kids? Negatively in my opinion.